John, great explanation. I don't doubt the expertise of you or your crew. My only issue is (not being a rich man) is finding a quality way to do what needs to be done, as easy on my pocket book as possible. I know some of these guys on here won't even blink at the price tag, but for me it is tough to swallow. I guess it is just another indication of how this hobby has grown. I swear stuff is like double what it was 10 years ago but at the same time, 10 years ago most people wouldn't touch half our stuff. I look forward to seeing your stuff at the Nationals (if your going to be there) Been thinking about looking at rotisseries also. But I'm still poor. lol