lee: that's the same boat i'm in and why i brought this up. i guess i'm trying to get a "feel good" about it by people not having seen a problem with their heads. i know nothing in this world is a given but i won't be able to enjoy this car thats seemed to have taken forever to finish if i'm worried that it's going to leave me stranded on the roadside! and i have to say at this point it isn't looking too positive. maybe i should have started a poll? dave