Ok, so I have bought one, and John has his attitude because he has found similar results. I consider myself to be honest about aftermarket stuff. The fact is, some seaped due to casting issues, and none seem to have the right spacing for the Tstat. This is not a case of "my car is the far end of the specs". This is a case of THEY ARE IN THE WRONG SPOT and they don't care. That bothers me. It should bother more people. But this is what the US market has turned in to. Long as it's cheap, we'll make it work!