he,he,he. there is usually a back story in my life that needs told for some reason, and most of the time i get carried away. hope nobody gets irritated at me for this. old guys just like to hear themselves talk it seems. question was, as you correctly put it, "do i fix these things or sell 'em as is ?" your answer was as i thought it should be. i guess i just needed some prodding. thanks gene !