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1970 Paint mix codes or #s .... EV2
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05/23/11 06:41 AM
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Hi All
Will looking in to painting the superbird ...
Does anyone have the mix% for Tor Red / EV2...
I know nothing about paint .. but all the paint supply shops say they dont have any books that go back that far... So if I can find the paint mix... they can mix it for me ...
Any other wisdom any of you have learned would be helpful as well...
Thanks
David
1965 Ply "RAMCUDA" got to see it!!!<--- Should sell it/ 1970 Superbird <------ Just one big argument/ 1980 Jeep CJ5 <--- Just wheel it/ 2000 Dakota R/T <--- Should Drive it more/ 2001 Dodge Caravan <----- Cant kill it/ 2004 Dodge 2500 4dr DIZLE 4x4 <---- LOVE IT !!! www.moparalley.org
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Re: 1970 Paint mix codes or #s .... EV2
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05/23/11 06:59 AM
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I fed this to my body shop when they painted my Vitamin C Road Runner. It turned out good with no problems. They used Dupont. But the chart cross references other brands too. 1970 Chrysler Paint Codes
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Re: 1970 Paint mix codes or #s .... EV2
[Re: Morty426]
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05/24/11 06:36 PM
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Thanks
I just dont want to pay to have paint mixed and get there to pic it up and find out it Vida C and not Red ....
Funny TCP Global is the only people that have the coating that i used to make the yellow head/fog light for the bird ....
So the two of you both happy how close the Red is to the stock color
What is the better paint ... DUPONT or PPG ??????
ONE more thing what is the goop that the factory used between the front fender and inner fender of the motor bay ....
1965 Ply "RAMCUDA" got to see it!!!<--- Should sell it/ 1970 Superbird <------ Just one big argument/ 1980 Jeep CJ5 <--- Just wheel it/ 2000 Dakota R/T <--- Should Drive it more/ 2001 Dodge Caravan <----- Cant kill it/ 2004 Dodge 2500 4dr DIZLE 4x4 <---- LOVE IT !!! www.moparalley.org
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Re: 1970 Paint mix codes or #s .... EV2
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05/25/11 04:25 PM
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Quote:
Thanks
I just dont want to pay to have paint mixed and get there to pic it up and find out it Vida C and not Red ....
Funny TCP Global is the only people that have the coating that i used to make the yellow head/fog light for the bird ....
So the two of you both happy how close the Red is to the stock color
What is the better paint ... DUPONT or PPG ??????
ONE more thing what is the goop that the factory used between the front fender and inner fender of the motor bay ....
I am very happy with the color on my car. Funny thing happened - my brother had his 70 Charger painted in base coat / clear coat. My 71 Challenger in enamel single stage.
My brother thinks my car is too red. I think my brother's car is too close to Vitamin C orange, his car is too light.
I compared my car to some PPG Hemi Orange that I bought 20 years ago - it's dead on. So I am very happy that the color is correct. I have nothing but good luck with PPG.
As for the foam, I used Expandable Foam from SEM. It's not cheap and it sets up pretty fast so I put it on and flattened with a puddy knife. Let if cure and then mounted the fender later. It looks factory after paint.
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Re: 1970 Paint mix codes or #s .... EV2
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05/25/11 08:12 PM
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Thanks Morty....
Can you or Snoopy tell me that the difference is between the three Dupont paint codes 5067LH, 5067A, 5067DH on on Snoopys can 5067AH P
so what all that about ...
Morty you can has the #2186 on it ?
Morty does your paint look to be the same Red thats on the can in the pic Snoopy posted ?
I sorry i forget where i found this pic ,, but its the best why to show the diff between Tor Red and Vida C
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Re: 1970 Paint mix codes or #s .... EV2
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05/26/11 05:59 AM
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Thanks EV2/Ahy/Mobodyman
MObodyman ... Do you have a guess what the car is painted with ?
Laquer ?
EV2A66 ... is you car red ?
Ahy .... thanks for the link ...
So i want to do the nose and one panel .. so what would i have better luck with single stage ? mind you im trying to make it mach up with the stock semi-faded paint ..How is the best way to kill the shine or flatten the finish on the new stuff ...
just to put it out there .. when it come to paint and body I have NO idea what im doing...Just trying to ask good ?s
1965 Ply "RAMCUDA" got to see it!!!<--- Should sell it/ 1970 Superbird <------ Just one big argument/ 1980 Jeep CJ5 <--- Just wheel it/ 2000 Dakota R/T <--- Should Drive it more/ 2001 Dodge Caravan <----- Cant kill it/ 2004 Dodge 2500 4dr DIZLE 4x4 <---- LOVE IT !!! www.moparalley.org
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Re: 1970 Paint mix codes or #s .... EV2
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05/26/11 07:09 PM
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Thanks EV2/Ahy/Mobodyman
MObodyman ... Do you have a guess what the car is painted with ?
Laquer ?
EV2A66 ... is you car red ?
Ahy .... thanks for the link ...
So i want to do the nose and one panel .. so what would i have better luck with single stage ? mind you im trying to make it mach up with the stock semi-faded paint ..How is the best way to kill the shine or flatten the finish on the new stuff ...
just to put it out there .. when it come to paint and body I have NO idea what im doing...Just trying to ask good ?s
If the car is original paint and a Superbird, it had both lacquer and acrylic enamel on it
Lacquer on the nose from Creative Industries and enamel on most of the car from Chrysler.
Delstar DAR-2186 from PPG will match the factory enamel very well; I've actually panel painted & done blends with it on original paint survivor cars.
Use a hardener in it and your gloss will be close. A light buff on everything and it'll look great.
Rick 
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Re: 1970 Paint mix codes or #s .... EV2
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05/27/11 03:13 AM
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thanks Rick...
What goo / sealant do you use for the front fenders ...
1965 Ply "RAMCUDA" got to see it!!!<--- Should sell it/ 1970 Superbird <------ Just one big argument/ 1980 Jeep CJ5 <--- Just wheel it/ 2000 Dakota R/T <--- Should Drive it more/ 2001 Dodge Caravan <----- Cant kill it/ 2004 Dodge 2500 4dr DIZLE 4x4 <---- LOVE IT !!! www.moparalley.org
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Re: 1970 Paint mix codes or #s .... EV2
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05/27/11 05:18 AM
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I did some panel painting on this car using acrylic enamel with hardner. And as Rick mentioned I gave all of the car a light buff with a foam pad and micro finishing compound. The repainted panels matched the originals nicely. Original single stage paint has a unique look and texture that's hard to duplicate in bc/cc.
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Re: 1970 Paint mix codes or #s .... EV2
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05/27/11 07:48 AM
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thanks Rick...
What goo / sealant do you use for the front fenders ...
While most assembly plants used the foamy looking sealant, Lynch Rd. cars seem to have used a black material that's more like strip caulk. (That's what your picture looks like as well).
The only problem with strip caulk, is that it stays soft and is easily damaged. I prefer to use a regular seam sealer and shape it for the same appearance.
Rick
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Re: 1970 Paint mix codes or #s .... EV2
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05/27/11 07:11 PM
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Thanks Morty....
Can you or Snoopy tell me that the difference is between the three Dupont paint codes 5067LH, 5067A, 5067DH on on Snoopys can 5067AH P
so what all that about ...
Morty you can has the #2186 on it ?
Morty does your paint look to be the same Red thats on the can in the pic Snoopy posted ?
I sorry i forget where i found this pic ,, but its the best why to show the diff between Tor Red and Vida C
Yes the can I have has 2186 on it and it looks the same RED as on Snoopy's label. That red scares you when you first see it because the actual paint on primer is more orange, but DDR-2186 is a great match as Rick said.
Since you are trying to match the paint I suggest what Rick said or hiring an expert to try match it.
Or you could sell the car to me and stop argueing with your wife  
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Re: 1970 Paint mix codes or #s .... EV2
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05/28/11 05:31 AM
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LOL..... today i would have sold the car to anyone that walked up... I will NEVER put in a nose to fender rubber again .....  Truly catching a greased pic would be ezer.....at lest more fun...
1965 Ply "RAMCUDA" got to see it!!!<--- Should sell it/ 1970 Superbird <------ Just one big argument/ 1980 Jeep CJ5 <--- Just wheel it/ 2000 Dakota R/T <--- Should Drive it more/ 2001 Dodge Caravan <----- Cant kill it/ 2004 Dodge 2500 4dr DIZLE 4x4 <---- LOVE IT !!! www.moparalley.org
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