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Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: rickb67] #998139 05/23/11 06:22 PM 05/23/11 06:22 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	I really like my home ported rpm`s..............slightly bigger than stock port and just had em freshened after 6 years and all they needed was a valve job. The guides were awesome and we put rubber seals on instead of the teflon I was running. I should be making 600+ based on my et and weight of 3150+lbs AND, I drive the hell out of it on the street. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: rickb67] #998140 05/23/11 07:00 PM 05/23/11 07:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,408 Ambridge, Pa. R rickraw top fuel
rickraw top fuel R Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,408 Ambridge, Pa.	i wouldn't buy a bottle of wax from indy. had garbage hemi heads from them & after hearing other problems on here, i'd spend ur hard earned money on b1's or bodix!! stay safe, seeya, Rick.

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: Thumperdart] #998141 05/23/11 07:01 PM 05/23/11 07:01 PM
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,675 Akron, Ohio U.S.A. roadhazard master
roadhazard master Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,675 Akron, Ohio U.S.A.	915's Seriously, depends on the combo and what you want to do with it as stated above. It's actually fun to have choices, unlike the 80's

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: cudaboy] #998142 05/23/11 07:27 PM 05/23/11 07:27 PM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,840 Flint, Michigan B1Fish540 master
B1Fish540 master Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,840 Flint, Michigan	Quote: Where are all the ProComp cheerleaders? Dennis yeah Pro Comp are the best bang or buck! Or the 440 Source both are from China...but so are most of the cranks and rods you buy too...so what difference does it make?

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: B1Fish540] #998143 05/23/11 09:00 PM 05/23/11 09:00 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama M MRMOPAR622 top fuel
MRMOPAR622 top fuel M Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama	After you buy a set of heads and have to have them maxx out to get enough CFM you end up with about the same $$$ as a set of 440-1 heads. And later if you ever need more cu. in. & you will,you won't have to buy new heads again. The only problem I have ever had with Indy,is breaking parts from the power they make. "To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man" "T/D and Pro-Bracket Racer"

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: B1Fish540] #998144 05/23/11 09:06 PM 05/23/11 09:06 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Quote: Quote: Where are all the ProComp cheerleaders? Dennis yeah Pro Comp are the best bang or buck! Or the 440 Source both are from China...but so are most of the cranks and rods you buy too...so what difference does it make? i'm holding out for the chinese copy of the drag pack hemi intake. $1000 is just a little to much to swallow from ma mopar. you have to wonder how many they could sell if they would cut the price in half Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: cudaboy] #998145 05/23/11 11:21 PM 05/23/11 11:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,260 Las Vegas NV moparmanjames pro stock
moparmanjames pro stock Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,260 Las Vegas NV	Quote: Where are all the ProComp cheerleaders? Dennis Excellent head if you buy it bare and have it CNC ported, the downside is having to buy offset rockers but if you can afford it Modern Cylinder got them to flow 386 according to this: http://users.erols.com/srweiss/tablehdc.htm#Chrysler_Big_Block

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: moparmanjames] #998146 05/23/11 11:32 PM 05/23/11 11:32 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 753 San Diego, CA B brktracr super street
brktracr super street B Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 753 San Diego, CA	I run the SR's and the car runs 9.40's - 9.50's weighing 3140 with me in it. As previously stated I think the 440-1 or B1's are the best value for the money. Wish I would have bought them instead of the SR's. Much more potential performance not for a whole lot more money. My 1.298 60 ft 6.001 1/8 mile 114 mph 9.52 1/4 mile 140.87 mph @ 3110 lbs

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: brktracr] #998147 05/23/11 11:51 PM 05/23/11 11:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio dartman366 I Live Here
dartman366 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio	Good post guy's,,keep it going. Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: sixpackgut] #998148 05/24/11 12:18 AM 05/24/11 12:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,010 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart I Live Here
gregsdart I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,010 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	Quote: Quote: Quote: Where are all the ProComp cheerleaders? Dennis yeah Pro Comp are the best bang or buck! Or the 440 Source both are from China...but so are most of the cranks and rods you buy too...so what difference does it make? i'm holding out for the chinese copy of the drag pack hemi intake. $1000 is just a little to much to swallow from ma mopar. you have to wonder how many they could sell if they would cut the price in half I agree, and wish they would. Unfortunately, they would probably need to sell three times as many for the same profit. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: gregsdart] #998149 05/24/11 12:40 AM 05/24/11 12:40 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 191 Rapid City, SD R rickb67 OP member
rickb67 OP member R Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 191 Rapid City, SD	Wow great coments.I have a 67 cuda bracket car 3300 lbs with driver 440 with 727 4.56 29.5x10.5 m/ts. wold like to run 10.50's. If i can i will keep the VIs just because i made that choice and i am hardheaded.

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: rickb67] #998150 05/24/11 01:10 AM 05/24/11 01:10 AM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 876 Arizona PolyDart super stock
PolyDart super stock Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 876 Arizona	I've got Stealth heads with OOTB ports. I've run a best of 10.41 @ 127 in a 512 CI Dart which weighs 3380 with me in it. Looking forward to having them CNC ported and dropping down to the 10.0s. 1970 Dart Resto-Race Project 1960 Dodge Dart Seneca Dual Quad 390 Poly

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: rickb67] #998151 05/24/11 02:26 AM 05/24/11 02:26 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,045 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,045 Oregon	A 440 with Stage VI heads should go 9's in an A body without too much trouble. Just have to get it sorted out.

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: rickb67] #998152 05/24/11 02:40 AM 05/24/11 02:40 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	The Edelbrock Max Wedge victors are decent for the price, but not without some issues. The heads with valves from Edelbrock are setup for stock valve spring heights. If I used them again, I would get the heads without valves, then get longer valve. Because the longer valves will change the rocker geometry, mill off the rocker stands and use the maxwedge style rocker shaft hold downs. On my 4.15" stroked 400 block (about 500"), with the KB/ICON flat top pistons it has about 12.4:1 compression. The pistons could use deeper valve pockets if you are going to run a cam with 270 or more duration @ 0.050. I'm running a 264@0.050" cam and the engine makes over 650 HP.

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: Biginchmopar] #998153 05/24/11 02:58 AM 05/24/11 02:58 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	Quote: Quote: B1BS HEADS ARE GREAT TOO.IM MAKING 842 HP WITH THEM. I would second that! Brodix makes the B1-BS head and I have never had a problem with them. They are real good if you open them to the Max Wedge port. The B1-BS heads are good, but the small 65cc chambers would make a 500" engine with flat top pistons about 13.9:1 compression, which may be good if using race gas (or not too good if using pump gas?). OOB they don't flow much different that a RPM head, but can be ported to over 350cfm with maxwedge port size. I have a set of used B1-BS heads with one damaged port/chamber. I was going to have them rebuilt and ported, but got the Victor heads. If your interested in the used heads, I'll sell them for $1,000 (Less than the cost of one new bare head.) Here is a pic of the bad chamber: 6648156-b1bsChamber.jpg (167 downloads)

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: 451Mopar] #998154 05/24/11 07:07 AM 05/24/11 07:07 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,144 Central NC gch master
gch master Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,144 Central NC	SEnd your heads to Dwayne Porter and let him check them out.Maybe he can repair them. Like every one said it depends on your power level and how far you want to push the block.

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: gch] #998155 05/25/11 01:08 PM 05/25/11 01:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	But he's looking to sell them. R.

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: rickb67] #998156 05/25/11 01:54 PM 05/25/11 01:54 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,207 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,207 Bend,OR USA	Quote: I HAVE STAGE VI HEADS AND I AM NOT HAPPY . 125 PASSES AND HAVE HAD TO REDO THEM TWICE AND THE INTAKES ARE SUNK IN THE HEAD. JUST SO I DON'T SCREW UP AGAIN. WHAT SHOULD I BUY. why did you have to have them redone twice? As far as which heads to run what is the application(street, race only or?) and how much power do you want to make? Also what C.I., comp. ratio and camshaft used?Lots of choices out there Mild to wild i have used stock 906 and made 480 HP on CA pump gas on a 452 C.I. 440 street motor. I just finished dyno testing a 527 stroker 440 block that made 845 HP at 7000 RPM on race gas, 440-1 CNC ported 12.9 to 1 comp. ratio single 1050 dominator carb. Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: Cab_Burge] #998157 05/25/11 03:56 PM 05/25/11 03:56 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	My stroked 400(470)went 10.40`s w/traction issues and made 614hp-580tq w/906`s and a 590-605 solid Isky cam. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: BEST BIG BLOCK HEADS FOR THE MONEY [Re: Thumperdart] #998158 05/25/11 04:19 PM 05/25/11 04:19 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058 bigfork mn D dragram440 super stock
dragram440 super stock D Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058 bigfork mn	I have stage VI heads on a 499 in a 3800 lb charger and with no tuning it has ran a best of 10.60 in the 8 passes I have on it. We will see how long they last I guess. I bought the whole top end package from somebody off ebay and they were already worked over but still brand new. I dont know how good of a job is done to them but they seem to make ok power. I think I have a little power left in it. I was launching very easy off a idle with the foot brakes. 1.52 60 ft. I guess I am happy with the power we will see on durability. 67' charger 499 RB 10.57 at 127

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