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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #993215
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BB and SB do not mix and are different mounting brackets

Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: pinkduster] #993216
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Sorry about that big picture, but that really shows how it should be.

I agree with scratchin... You can't mix and match AC and non AC parts. I had major issues like that years ago with one of my 71 Dusters that had an aftermarket AC setup on it at one time. Finally, I just went to a junkyard and got all non AC brackets and pullies.

Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: hooziewhatsit] #993217
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Quote:

Just so it's clear, I made a picture

Move the bracket to the front, and line up the holes as colored:




this bracket wont flip around and bolt up,it has 4 holes,the alt pivot hole is offset from the 2 holes that are right together,the 4th hole is for the a/c comp bolt


Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #993218
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Quote:

Quote:

Just so it's clear, I made a picture

Move the bracket to the front, and line up the holes as colored:




this bracket wont flip around and bolt up,it has 4 holes,the alt pivot hole is offset from the 2 holes that are right together,the 4th hole is for the a/c comp bolt






D'oh Thanks for the additional clarification


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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: geol] #993219
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old picture of 69 340




FYI,this is a early style non a/c alt bracket and pulley set up that has 3 bolts in the early cast iron pumps

the later non a/c alt bracket only have 2 bolts on the later style alum pumps

this means you need the early bracket with early pullys

and later alt brackets with later pullys

cant mix these setups either,IIRC

not sure how much the brackets changed when they changed to a sanden a/c comp..it has same alt pivot with bolt and nut,2 bolts to head and moved hole for comp making for 2 diff style brackets going by yr

hoozie..it would be correct if it was the 3 hole non a/c bracket,you are thinking correct on the bolting up part

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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #993220
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So i can't use the lower A/C Y shaped lower bracket with the Non-A/C 3 hole triangle top bracket? and at the end of the long bolt on the top, does it go all the way through and then into the head.. that big pic is nice but it doesn't show.

Im so confused and its a big mess now of mis-matched parts, I have 2 pullies on my alternator but only use 1 since my A/C was ripped out

thanks for the color diagram, but i already tried to flip it, like you showed and it didn't line up at all, and to add the big pic there shows 3 holes on the right of the triangle bracket, I only have 2 in my water pump


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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: Caparco] #993221
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ok,yes you may use the lower Y slide bracket with the non a/c alt 3 hole bracket it would share the same lower side bolt on the water pump

on non a/c alt bracket the pivot bolt goes into the hole in the head,bracket for front of alt on pivot bolt with spaces in place,2 long side wp bolts holding bracket

now the alt is hung..

swing arm goes on lowr side wp bolt to swing up to alt bolt

the bracket you need goes across the bolts on the top of wp

this is a/c brackets,the alt pivot bolt does not goe in the head but into the offset hole of bracket with pivot bolt and nut...like you have now

all you need is a a/c comp front bracket to support the front of the alt and push it back in line

you have a belt straight to the crank bypassing the a/c comp now

it may need to be a little longer when you get the front bracket

dont look at the BB pic posted and when looking at the SB pics they have non a/c brackets and pullys so you cant get that with what you have on there now

you could take some flat bar and drill holes in each end then support the front of alt from a water pump bolt,line it up with the belt off and get it supported first then install a correct length belt

if you look at the sb with a/c,you see the 2 belts over the top of the a/c comp going to the alt,you need that front bracket on the a/c comp

then run the belts down to the crank like you have it now

clean up the web/rib on the wp neck and you will get both belts like the a/c used on the alt

if you want a true later style non a/c set up you need a non a/c 1 groove wp pully and a 2 groove crank pully for ps

they have a single groove crank pully for non a/c manual steer also when your looking so remeber 2 groove for ps

also looking at the sb pics some of the non a/c brackets have 3 bolts in the wp and the alt pivot bolt into the head...those are for an early style cast iorn wp.. may or may not work on alum wp

but the exploded pic of the brackets are what you want with 2 correct pullys to match for non a/c and ps


now you fused?


Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: scratchnfotraction] #993222
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look at the pic of the 73 cuda

you want that front bracket holding the a/c comp

see how it goes behind the a/c pully and over to the alt pivot bolt

thats what you need and your done

just the wp mod to run the 2 short belts just like you have on there with the 1 belt

Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: pinkduster] #993223
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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: babarracuda] #993224
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Out of all the eng pics I have taken this is the best showing at least a little of the alt mounting. Ron




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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: babarracuda] #993225
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Heres a shot of a 73 cuda 340 no AC car alternator shot.


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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: 19cuda73] #993226
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but he has the a/c brackets and pulleys and is bypassing the a/c comp doing it the shadetree way on the cheap.

going by his pic posted anyways,he is just missing the front a/c bracket to hold the alt.

he will need the 2 non a/c pulleys and alt bracket to chang over to non a/c and LOOK correct.

Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: 19cuda73] #993227
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Quote:

Heres a shot of a 73 cuda 340 no AC car alternator shot.




wow thats a nice pic! ty!.. and yes I am using a/c mounts and have to get the triangle non-A/c one.. I hope the bottom Y adjuster bracket will work with it still.

My Question is that top bolt.. that gets the small spacer and then gets bolted into the head??, can't tell from pic, or is there a bolt at end of it?
There is a hole near that on head.. you can see from my pic its where i had it bolted to


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Re: Bring your Alternator Pictures! [Re: Caparco] #993228
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