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How much to mill stock hemi heads to gain half a point? #981385
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Hi!

How much would a set of OEM HEMI heads would need to be milled in order to achieve an extra half a point of compression?

How much milling is considered safe?

Domingo

Re: How much to mill stock hemi heads to gain half a point? [Re: domingo] #981386
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3 basic variables to work with, Volume of cylinder (Vcyl), volume of everything above that (Vtdc), and Compression ratio (CR). Example: for a 4.31 bore, 4.15 stroke, 10.0 comp ratio, Vcyl= 992cc, the unknown variable is Vtdc, the general equation reduces to 992= 9.0 x Vtdc; so Vtdc= 110.2. To increase the comp ration by .5, the equation changes to 992=9.5 x Vtdc, so Vtdc= 104.4, a reduction of 5.8cc. Milling a hemi chamber is about .0041"/cc, so 5.8 x .0041= .024".
All hemi heads have a register on the deck near the exh face at the center of head (about .5" x .5"), once the register is gone, that is the factory safety limit for milling (usually about .080 deep when untouched.)


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Re: How much to mill stock hemi heads to gain half a point? [Re: domingo] #981387
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From past experience I would never remove anything more than necessary to true the hemi head. Alignment issuses are a huge problem once you start milling the heads.

Re: How much to mill stock hemi heads to gain half a point? [Re: mbogina] #981388
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3 basic variables to work with, Volume of cylinder (Vcyl), volume of everything above that (Vtdc), and Compression ratio (CR). Example: for a 4.31 bore, 4.15 stroke, 10.0 comp ratio, Vcyl= 992cc, the unknown variable is Vtdc, the general equation reduces to 992= 9.0 x Vtdc; so Vtdc= 110.2. To increase the comp ration by .5, the equation changes to 992=9.5 x Vtdc, so Vtdc= 104.4, a reduction of 5.8cc. Milling a hemi chamber is about .0041"/cc, so 5.8 x .0041= .024".
All hemi heads have a register on the deck near the exh face at the center of head (about .5" x .5"), once the register is gone, that is the factory safety limit for milling (usually about .080 deep when untouched.)




This is a 4,15" stroke engine. 4,28" bore

Re: How much to mill stock hemi heads to gain half a point? [Re: racingblues1426] #981389
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From past experience I would never remove anything more than necessary to true the hemi head. Alignment issuses are a huge problem once you start milling the heads.




You have a point there.

Re: How much to mill stock hemi heads to gain half a point? [Re: domingo] #981390
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I was going to bring up the alignment issue as well. It's not a huge deal but it has to be right.

Sheldon

Re: How much to mill stock hemi heads to gain half a point? [Re: RUNCHARGER] #981391
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at 4.15 Stroke, 4.28 bore, Vcyl= 978cc, reduction needed is 5.7cc for 0.5 CR increase (-.023"). Minor amounts of milling such as this will not cause other alignment problems. Our SS hemi's are decked about -.500", the heads another .040 to .065"- combine that with angle milling and milling the intake face- THEN you have some engineering to work through.


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