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AMD panel disappointment #972170
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I've been helping a friend on his Demon project, a very solid car with only some minor rust issue on the trunk extension and lower rear quarter. He ordered the AMD lower panel along with trunk extension. I'm not going into a big rant here, but this jumped right out at me as soon as I saw it. Got to wonder if they are all this way. We won't be using this part of the panel, thankfully!
First pic is the original panel.

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Here's the "replacement" panel.

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Last pic. I'm not to thrilled about the quality...... stamped on the body line.

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AND what did they say when you called them about this ???

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Call them, I just had an issue with a RH quarter panel for a 71B. It was way off. The left side was fine. They sent me another one without hesitation. I haven't installed the new one yet, but so far the customer service was good.

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Ive been workin out problems with the outer wheel housings to quarter panel meeting areas on my 74 barracuda. The wheel housing is way off.It also did not match the original inner housing. I had to cut slices in the flange area and cut the complete lip off. A lot of extra metal work that I did not count on. Called them up and they were honest and admitted that they knew about this. But still???I'll be doing the other side in a few weeks, and not looking forward to it.

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Ive been workin out problems with the outer wheel housings to quarter panel meeting areas on my 74 barracuda. The wheel housing is way off.It also did not match the original inner housing. I had to cut slices in the flange area and cut the complete lip off. A lot of extra metal work that I did not count on. Called them up and they were honest and admitted that they knew about this. But still???I'll be doing the other side in a few weeks, and not looking forward to it.




I had the same problem with the inner wheel housing not meeting up with the quarter panel. I don't understand how this issue is the same on the e bodies and b bodies. Mine were 1/4" too short so we had to add 1/4" to the wheel tub.

Re: AMD panel disappointment [Re: gygeneral] #972177
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Ive been workin out problems with the outer wheel housings to quarter panel meeting areas on my 74 barracuda. The wheel housing is way off.It also did not match the original inner housing. I had to cut slices in the flange area and cut the complete lip off. A lot of extra metal work that I did not count on. Called them up and they were honest and admitted that they knew about this. But still???I'll be doing the other side in a few weeks, and not looking forward to it.




I had the same problem with the inner wheel housing not meeting up with the quarter panel. I don't understand how this issue is the same on the e bodies and b bodies. Mine were 1/4" too short so we had to add 1/4" to the wheel tub.




Are you saying there is a problem with the wheel houses on the 69 B-body???
I am needing to replace both inner and outer.

Ed B


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Ive been workin out problems with the outer wheel housings to quarter panel meeting areas on my 74 barracuda. The wheel housing is way off.It also did not match the original inner housing. I had to cut slices in the flange area and cut the complete lip off. A lot of extra metal work that I did not count on. Called them up and they were honest and admitted that they knew about this. But still???I'll be doing the other side in a few weeks, and not looking forward to it.




I had the same problem with the inner wheel housing not meeting up with the quarter panel. I don't understand how this issue is the same on the e bodies and b bodies. Mine were 1/4" too short so we had to add 1/4" to the wheel tub.




Are you saying there is a problem with the wheel houses on the 69 B-body???
I am needing to replace both inner and outer.

Ed B




NO, I am making reference to the 71B quartrs I just installed. I have no experience with the 69B's.

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OK Thanks, if anyone has had experience with other fit issues or success please chime in.

Ed


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OK Thanks, if anyone has had experience with other fit issues or success please chime in.

Ed


Troy Angelly just replaced my quarters and partial outer wheel wells on my '69 RR with AMD's products. They needed a lot of tweeking, especially at the lower window corners and at the tail light extensions. I think he had to do some massaging of the lower body lines too. Regarding the wheel wells; I believe he cut out the bad area in the originals, where they spot weld to the quarters, and then used the new wells for the replacement metal instead of replacing the entire well.
Although AMD seems to have the best product out there they are not like NOS or donor car panels. Remember, they don't have the original dies and presses so they are not going to be a perfect fit, they will require some work so be prepared for some additional time and effort.

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OK Thanks, if anyone has had experience with other fit issues or success please chime in.

Ed


Troy Angelly just replaced my quarters and partial outer wheel wells on my '69 RR with AMD's products. They needed a lot of tweeking, especially at the lower window corners and at the tail light extensions. I think he had to do some massaging of the lower body lines too. Regarding the wheel wells; I believe he cut out the bad area in the originals, where they spot weld to the quarters, and then used the new wells for the replacement metal instead of replacing the entire well.
Although AMD seems to have the best product out there they are not like NOS or donor car panels. Remember, they don't have the original dies and presses so they are not going to be a perfect fit, they will require some work so be prepared for some additional time and effort.









Odd?.......I had actually quite the opposite "experience" with the AMD 69 qtrs that I installed personally on this customers car, the original dutchman panel and gutter rails stayed in place, only 1 door jamb was replaced, the qtrs pretty much fell into place, the original taillight potmetal caps bolted on and aligned perfectly, all the panels lines, lined up with the factory doors, and other countours of the car, no filler was needed anywhere on the skin, other than the obvious blend area in the roof pillar and rocker seam, I fitted every other panel and trim, glass, etc before final welding, so that no surprises would pop up during final assembly (what o0ne should do regardless of panel's origin).....my only issue was with the marker lites, the stamping was a tad bit larger, but easily rectified, I used Goodmark trunk/qtr extentions that were supplied by the customer, and suprisingly they worked rather well with the AMD qtrs......I installed a good number of AMD qtrs, fenders,hoods,trunks, dutchman panels, tailpanel,etc,etc,etc, on E and B bodies, and have yet to encounter any panel that requires the kind of "tweaking" that some have encountered,....I buy my panels just like the rest of you, either direct from AMD, or thru a local supplier,.....in fact the panels I installed on this customers RR were the "left over" last set at Autobodyspecialties in Conn, I was late to pick thru the several sets they recieved, I got what was left, there were several dimples from handling, but nothing a few minutes with a pick and dolly couldn't straighten out...


Mike

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I just replaced the drivers floor pan in the R/T in my sig picture. I was happy with it. I think it will be hard to tell once it is painted. The only thing I didn't like was the firewall pinch is shaped differently.

Otherwise it looks like a ninja welded it in there

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We installed a set of AMD 1/4s on a customers car a week ago and they went really good. Fit nice everywhere.

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Dayclona I'm jelous. We are on our 4th set of road runner quarter panels and the stampings should come with there own troll to help straghten them . They must like you better.

Don't bet me wrong these are the best PATCH panels to date and couldn't do it without them.

Anyone want a cheap pair of AMD Challenger door skins. I wouldn't even bother using them. Sell at half price.

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Dayclona I'm jelous. We are on our 4th set of road runner quarter panels and the stampings should come with there own troll to help straghten them . They must like you better.

Don't bet me wrong these are the best PATCH panels to date and couldn't do it without them.

Anyone want a cheap pair of AMD Challenger door skins. I wouldn't even bother using them. Sell at half price.








Like I've said in past posts on AMD sheetmetal, it can be a crap shoot, if you grab the first few pcs 'hot off the press" so to speak when the pcs are first offered, chances are you get the sharper/crisper panels that are made at a slower pace, but as production ramps up, quality goes down, as well as wear on the dies, or damage to the dies,.....but it's also a double edged sword, sometimes the first initial run can be frought with problems, resulting in poor/badly stamped pcs, and then after "fine tuning" production, later run pcs improve,...but being made in SE Asia, quality control is only as good as the US counterpart/controller wants it,....plus another factor is that most of the Asian workforce has no understanding of the importance that we (the end user) place on the correctness of these panels, or even their intended usage,......I work as a Millwright, erecting steel/precious metal mills/foundries and it's equipment,...I've done my "tour" of working in SE Asia/ India, and know what goes on firsthand at these plants......it's not good.....


But I do applaud AMD's efforts for bringing to market, panels/pcs most thought we would never see

Mike

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