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race car wiring ????? #964915 04/03/11 12:02 AM 04/03/11 12:02 AM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,030 ohio 6 67mprfan OP super stock
67mprfan OP super stock 6 Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,030 ohio	hey guys I am getting ready to rewire my car, not sure what size wire to use 12,14, gauge for stuff like electric fuel pumps and electric water pump and fan.....THANKS IN ADVANCE 6565166-63250012.jpg (168 downloads) 71 demon stock stroke 440/indy ez-1 running 10.10 @ 132.14 mph in the 1/4 and 6.36 @ 107.46 mph in the 1/8 not in the same weekend but It did it then I sold it. 67 Belvedere that worked it's way in the 10's

Re: race car wiring ????? [Re: 67mprfan] #964916 04/03/11 12:08 AM 04/03/11 12:08 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: hey guys I am getting ready to rewire my car, not sure what size wire to use 12,14, gauge for stuff like electric fuel pumps and electric water pump and fan.....THANKS IN ADVANCE Well it makes a difference... some things draw HEAVY amps(some fans draw as much as 40 amps)... will you be using relays on the stuff

Re: race car wiring ????? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #964917 04/03/11 12:22 AM 04/03/11 12:22 AM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,030 ohio 6 67mprfan OP super stock
67mprfan OP super stock 6 Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,030 ohio	hey mike didn't really think about relays the switch panel i have uses fuses but now i need to give that some thought..btw none is in the car now ......THANKS 6565204-63250012.jpg (152 downloads) 71 demon stock stroke 440/indy ez-1 running 10.10 @ 132.14 mph in the 1/4 and 6.36 @ 107.46 mph in the 1/8 not in the same weekend but It did it then I sold it. 67 Belvedere that worked it's way in the 10's

Re: race car wiring ????? [Re: 67mprfan] #964918 04/03/11 12:27 AM 04/03/11 12:27 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Guage will vary with a variable of things. Length, componets, relays, heat of the compartment. Things like gauge lights and ignition source indicater wires can use 20 gauge. Water pumps, Fans and fuel pumps, may need 10 gauge or better depending length from power source. But in most cases 12 gauge is plenty. Instead of having heavy gauge wiring running around everywhere I would use relays for remote locations. If you have a high draw short length wired componet use a HD switch with a matching wire gauge. Dont rely or trust your typical/elcheapo 20 amp switchs that you might get at your local auto retail shops. They by far dont handle the amps they are advertised at.

Re: race car wiring ????? [Re: Sport440] #964919 04/03/11 12:52 AM 04/03/11 12:52 AM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,030 ohio 6 67mprfan OP super stock
67mprfan OP super stock 6 Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,030 ohio	at the moment just looking at the fuel pumps to the switch panel as it being a race car batt's in the trunk, pumps in the rear, there is no motor so the up frt wiring has to wait.btw using arc panel if that helps 71 demon stock stroke 440/indy ez-1 running 10.10 @ 132.14 mph in the 1/4 and 6.36 @ 107.46 mph in the 1/8 not in the same weekend but It did it then I sold it. 67 Belvedere that worked it's way in the 10's

Re: race car wiring ????? [Re: 67mprfan] #964920 04/03/11 12:59 AM 04/03/11 12:59 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona C Chris'sBarracuda master
Chris'sBarracuda master C Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona	I am putting this in my junk when it gets back from paint JAIL.. I currently have ARC system.. Which I like a lot, but couldn't pass up my deal on this.. Gil Zeneri.. @ Speedwire Systems.. http://www.gallo-teck.ca/speedwire/products.htm Chris..

Re: race car wiring ????? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #964921 04/03/11 01:10 AM 04/03/11 01:10 AM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,030 ohio 6 67mprfan OP super stock
67mprfan OP super stock 6 Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,030 ohio	should i use relays with the arc switch panel 6565278-63250004.jpg (63 downloads) 71 demon stock stroke 440/indy ez-1 running 10.10 @ 132.14 mph in the 1/4 and 6.36 @ 107.46 mph in the 1/8 not in the same weekend but It did it then I sold it. 67 Belvedere that worked it's way in the 10's

Re: race car wiring ????? [Re: 67mprfan] #964922 04/03/11 01:17 AM 04/03/11 01:17 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona C Chris'sBarracuda master
Chris'sBarracuda master C Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona	Check out Auto Rod Controls on the web.. But here is a video.. They use a relay block/panel.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAxpsVLJvoo Chris..

Re: race car wiring ????? [Re: 67mprfan] #964923 04/03/11 01:40 AM 04/03/11 01:40 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Quote: at the moment just looking at the fuel pumps to the switch panel as it being a race car batt's in the trunk, pumps in the rear, there is no motor so the up frt wiring has to wait.btw using arc panel if that helps Thats definatly a situation where you want to use a relay. Id put the relay in the trunk. That way the pumps power feed will be a very short distance. Batt to pump through the relay. VS sending power to the front first and then back to the back with a even larger wire gauge preferred or needed. In this case you can energize the relay two ways. You can send 12 volts to it from your arc switched panel. Or you can ground it from the front or through the arc panel if it has that capability. To keep it simple I wouldnt use anything less then 12 gauge to feed the pump. To engergize the Relay from front to back. You could use 20 gauge or higher. A relay takes Miliamps to energize. But instead of buying a a bunch of different gauge wireing sizes. 12 and 16 gauge spools should cover you. But, also take into consideration wire color for easier polarity identification. Last edited by Sport440; 04/03/11 01:54 AM.

Re: race car wiring ????? [Re: 67mprfan] #964924 04/03/11 07:21 AM 04/03/11 07:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	do yourself a favor and get a kit from painless wiring or one of the other companies. and find somebody with wiring experience to help or do the job.anyoone can string a bunch of wires but there are things that need to be done to make it safe and work properly. if you have to ask these questions it makes me wonder if you know these things. not being rude just saying. good luck

Re: race car wiring ????? [Re: Sport440] #964925 04/03/11 11:52 AM 04/03/11 11:52 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,131 New Lenox IL cudadon top fuel
cudadon top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,131 New Lenox IL	Is your battery in the trunk? Are you going to run an alternator? If so how many amps will it be sending 15' or so to the batt.? I think I use a 4 ga. wire for my alt. to batt. in trunk. 100 amps could melt a 10 ga. wire 15' long. There are sites or books that tell you what gauge wire for how many amps going what length. Don 6565727-cordova.jpg (66 downloads) http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p314/cudadon/BKD6_09_10_191A.jpg

Re: race car wiring ????? [Re: 67mprfan] #964926 04/03/11 12:08 PM 04/03/11 12:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,586 Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana ProStDodge master
ProStDodge master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,586 Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana	Quote: should I use relays with the arc switch panel YES Here is a chart to give you a better idea on what wires to use where. The "length" referred to is a total of both the hot and ground wires to the item. Scotty 6565758-wirechart.JPG (173 downloads)

Re: race car wiring ????? [Re: Quicktree] #964927 04/03/11 09:29 PM 04/03/11 09:29 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,030 ohio 6 67mprfan OP super stock
67mprfan OP super stock 6 Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,030 ohio	Quote: do yourself a favor and get a kit from painless wiring or one of the other companies. and find somebody with wiring experience to help or do the job.anyoone can string a bunch of wires but there are things that need to be done to make it safe and work properly. if you have to ask these questions it makes me wonder if you know these things. not being rude just saying. good luck [/quote no i didn't take it wrong i seen them done both ways i bought the car a yr ago and started stripping wires out(msd, delay box,and now fuel pumps)and didn't find and relays in the car 6566715-63250004.jpg (98 downloads) 71 demon stock stroke 440/indy ez-1 running 10.10 @ 132.14 mph in the 1/4 and 6.36 @ 107.46 mph in the 1/8 not in the same weekend but It did it then I sold it. 67 Belvedere that worked it's way in the 10's

Re: race car wiring ????? [Re: 67mprfan] #964928 04/04/11 08:17 AM 04/04/11 08:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 315 Russiaville, IN mopar376d enthusiast
mopar376d enthusiast Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 315 Russiaville, IN	I just rewired my 4th car. Put in the ARC 8000R touch panel. It comes with a relay board that plugs in to the switch panel. Absolutely love it. Besides the heavy current users (starter, battery, etc.) I run everything in 14 gauge mtw wire. Why does divorce cost so much? Because it is worth it!!!!!

Re: race car wiring ????? [Re: mopar376d] #964929 04/04/11 07:46 PM 04/04/11 07:46 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 485 Raleigh, NC J j.mcconnell mopar
j.mcconnell mopar J Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 485 Raleigh, NC	I'm installing an ARC 8000D panel right now and it couldn't be any easier.

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