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Surface Primer?(With a Pic.) #963818
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I sprayed surface primer last year just b4 winter and i thought that it sprayed fairly well 4 the first time.Well i was wrong When the primer dry it has that alligator texture to it and wondering what procedure would be best to eliminate this rough texture.Can i just sand with a say (320)then final sand with a (400) r what will b the best way of tackling this i thought I'll ask here on Mo parts b4 i go any farther.Any help would b greatly appreciated.Thaxx

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Re: Surface Primer? [Re: racerx] #963819
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id say youd have to get rid of it. strip it off with 80 grit

Re: Surface Primer? [Re: racerx] #963820
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Surfacing primer is meant to be block sanded... It's better if it lays out smooth but your gonna be sanding anyway...


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Surfacing primer is meant to be block sanded... It's better if it lays out smooth but your gonna be sanding anyway...


Thaxx's 1 wild r/t that's what I'm thinking I'm trying 2 get photo bucket 2 host a pic but it's not happening but like said it laid down fairly well i think with no runs,just has that rough texture.

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? anyone has ever prep b4, using a DA sander B4 top coating.Or can it be done? Thaxxx

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A DA sander will make the surface smooth, but it won't level it. You need to block sand. There is no free lunch with body work.

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A DA sander will make the surface smooth, but it won't level it. You need to block sand. There is no free lunch with body work.




Yup, I'd start with 120-150 dry and get it level again.
You used either the wrong reducer for the temp or the wrong proporation when you mixed it. Got to have a pretty good tip size to spray surfacer, 1.8-2.2 or so.

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Thaxx's That's what i was thinking to use a DA to smooth it then follow up with a blocking of #400.

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Thaxx's That's what i was thinking to use a DA to smooth it then follow up with a blocking of #400.




Wrong... You will never get it right that way.

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Thaxx's That's what i was thinking to use a DA to smooth it then follow up with a blocking of #400.




Wrong... You will never get it right that way.


So what will u recommend?your help is greatly appreciated

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To get the body straight your'll need to block it with something courser than 400. I'd block it down dry with some 150-220 and then reprime and see where I'm at before wet sanding with 320-400.

A DA will make a mess unless your really good with it or just want to strip it then whip out the DA.

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Finally got photobucket to cooperate here's a pic so u can possibly see what's going on

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Do you want quick, or done right? Gotta block it.

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It looks normal to me. Take a black spray bomb and mist a light guide coat on. Then start block sanding grasshopper. On your first prime coats, you are going to sand most of it off anyway.

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It looks normal to me. Take a black spray bomb and mist a light guide coat on. Then start block sanding grasshopper. On your first prime coats, you are going to sand most of it off anyway.




I was told the same thing by a body man with 40 years of it under his belt. Works good.

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Spray it with guide coat and start blocking with 180.

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Spray it with guide coat and start blocking with 180.




^ Exactly,block it and use it as intended to fill the low spots and surface imperfections.Mix more surfacer and add some slow reducer to help the primer flow.It will give a smoother application when you spray.It will also be easier for you to sand with 360 to 500 grit before sealer or paint.final sandpaper grit is dependent on the type of paint to be applied.What brand and type of primer-surfacer are you using?Epoxy,2k urethane,or other?
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looks like primer to me, start blocking with 180.

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I'm useing that Summit 2k urethane primer surfacer. Thaxx

A few have mention to block with 180.Would that course of a grit be to rough?Or do i need to follow up with say 320-400.Sorry 4 so many ?,but I'm taking time off work to hopefully get this finish all uall help is greatly appreciated

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Nope, it(sandpaper) has to be ruff so it cut's and get's the panel straight, it's the only way. If you go to fine right away, it will never get flat and will be all wavey.

Block sand in a X shape and do it for hours, many. Get your self some durablocks and get busy. I have also used homemade blocks to sand with. It don't have to be Durablocks, but they work so nice.
Guide coat is a must also. Try it, your'll see.




here they are with a heavy guide coat before blocking.


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