Unfortunately the original engine harness was not salvageable to reuse on my 1970 cuda 440-4. bought a M&H engine harness through year one and the dist/carb solenoid harness through frank b. I wired everything up and when it came down to the carb and distributor solenoid i got a little confused. Does anyone have pictures(not service manual diagrams) of where everything runs between carb and dist/engine harness/alternator? any help would be greatly appreciated. On the M&H harness the blue wire closest to the carb solenoid had a bullet style female connector. The only other bullet male comes off the dist solenoid. the service manual wiring does not show this and between the two harnesses there is one extra wire that has nothing to plug into. Either its me or the harnesses were not design flaw with one of the harnesses. (its probably me, LOL)

distributor solenoid? Does this car have Cali emmisions?

The 70 440-4 used that style of distributor - single point with sol. The 70 440-6 used a normal dual point. The 71 440-6 adapted the sol can to the dual point.

its an LA built cuda but no cali emissions since it was not ordered there. fj5 thanks for the info but the info is not what i am looking for. i am looking for one wired up from dist to carb sol. if i can get a pics of this i can determine if the M&H harness needs to be altered or the fb harness is off which i highly doubt. does that blue wire that plugs into the carb solenoid part of the engine harness or a seperate one altogether.

I went through this with FB and thought we had it figured out a year or two ago. Going completely by memory (scary!) there is an extra splice in the engine harness off (I think) the blue wire on one of the alternator field connectors....then it gets fuzzier from there. FB had all the stuff I needed to wire it up at the time. I will try and dig out my notes/sketches.

This is a pic from a thread awhile back, hope this helps.

ok great, so we have the carb wiring, where do the black and blue wires then connect to? and where do the dist wires hook up to. the thing i am getting at with these wires is that you end up having two that go nowhere. thanks for the pic. just need to see what the other end towards the dist. looks like

There's a second blue wire that attaches to the solenoid, All the blue wires are 12v keyed power.. The black lead going to the carb goes to the other side of the solenoid.. The connection at the carb is isolated from ground except through the carb throttle lever contact point... So when the throttle is closed it provides a ground path activating the distributor vacuum solenoid dropping all the advance out.....

The blue wire feeds the voltage sense feed to the voltage regulator, the field windings of the alternator, the battery side of the ballast resistor, and they added the carb solenoid & vacuum advance solenoid...

I know you would like to see a picture of an actual wiring harness setup, but this is the best I can do at this time.

The dist solenoid may/should be labeled: BAT & Ground.

The blue wire connect to the bat and the black wire to ground.

Can you post any pics of the new solenoid harness?

i will post pics of the setup and we can go from there. i did get the correct NOS 3514 330 solenoid for my 3438 222 distributor. also i was able to reuse the original carb delco remy solenoid as well which works fine. i will post pics later or early tomorrow.

ok, now i have some pics of things. this is the aftermarket solenoid harness that frank b sells for 440-4.

close up of distributor solenoid with male bullet connector on the bat side and a female spade connector on the ground side.

2 blue wires that are spliced that connect to one of the field terminals on alternator. these blue wire are from the engine harness.

pic of carb solenoid. the black wire goes from the plunger to the spade connector on the dist sol. as you can see the female bullet connector coming right out of the engine harness. the only thing this could hook up to is the male bullet on the bat. side of the dist sol. is female bullet correct or should there be a spade connector there?

sorry for the mess in the engine compartment. once i get this thing hooked up right, it will be a little nicer to look at. ok final pic. the aftermarket sol. harness is draped over the carb area and i did not hook anything up yet. the factory diagram does not show this harness. that is why if anyone has pics of all this hooked up that would be great. my last solution with this is to disconnect the blue wire from the field connection on the alternator plug that into the aftermarket sol harness male terminal. if these are connected, then you can plug the one connection back to the alternator, and the other to the carb solenoid and then no wiring would be left and everything would have a place to go.

The black wire with the female spade connector from the distributor vacuum chamber connects to that male spade connector.. The blue wire with the male bullet connector from the vacuum chamber connects to the female bullet connector next to the idle solenoid....

Is there a blue lead connected to the carb idle solenoid? There should be...

while we are on the topic of wiring, what side of the coil does the radio suppressor hook up to. another thing not shown the service manual.

Looks great in there, a fantastic engine bay, let's get you closer to initial fire-up on your sweet motor. Nice carb! Who did the carb restoration? I have a guess.

'The black wire with the female spade connector from the distributor vacuum chamber connects to that male spade connector.'

I agree with Randy - these wires appear long enough to reach each other to confirm all else. The ground wires - I circled those two in red.
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'The blue wire with the male bullet connector from the vacuum chamber connects to the female bullet connector next to the idle solenoid...'

Randy, its the blue wires that are not right yet.

Its the two blue wires that appear they are not long enough to reach one another. Specifically, the blue wire in the engine harness looks too far away to connect it to the blue wire on the vac advance. Maybe there was an appropriate factory extension wire that connects these two wires?

A question for Randy, the blue wire at the carb solenoid with the female bullet connector should terminate at the #1 splice, correct? Or does it terminate at the alternator, I'd have to check mine later to verify.

In the last pic Randy - you can see that the carb solenoid does have its blue wire connected correctly.

So can I ask, what do you have the other end of the blue wire connected to, circled in lime green in the same pic?

In the pic in that same area it appears you have an extra pair of blue wires?

IIRC - the noise suppressor connects to neg.

This is from another member's ride, the blue wire in this harness at least appears long enough to connect it to the dist vac advance...