Re: Off Idle Stumble Edelbrock 800
[Re: Moe]
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03/18/11 11:13 PM
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How old is your carb?
When at the track, I have found on my Edelbrock 750 AFB, that the acclerator pump piston will dry out or pucker, and does not seal well. So then, no mater what nozzles or acc pump linkage setting, there is not enough fuel.
John
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Re: Off Idle Stumble Edelbrock 800
[Re: Moe]
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03/18/11 11:30 PM
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part throttle or WOT? When did it start? what part changes right b 4 it started? You're obviously lean somewhere but where. Good duration/quantity squirt starting immediately at tip in? ported vac I'm assuming. Lean primaries/float level. Get a strip kit & try a much smaller rod dia on either the "cruise" or the "power" step depending on what vac (in hg) it bogs at (part or WOT) & springs MAY need changing, check the above 1st
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Re: Off Idle Stumble Edelbrock 800
[Re: Moe]
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03/18/11 11:43 PM
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by constant vacuum you mean steady slow to medium throttle squeezing into the throttle? I'm assuming it was OK (no stumble at least) w the prior carb? Carb related vac leak or lean on the "cruise" step (assuming you are still on the cruise step) though I'd think those AVS's would b fairly rich. I would put a vac gauge on it to get a baseline on when it starts acting up. I would get a strip kit. EDIT reread your post. float levels too low/inadequate squirt/too lean of cruise step on the rods/vac leak
Last edited by RapidRobert; 03/19/11 10:45 AM.
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Re: Off Idle Stumble Edelbrock 800
[Re: BigBlockMopar]
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03/19/11 04:47 PM
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I had 750 Edelbrock on my car for about a year and had the same off idle stumble. Tried everything I could to get rid of it but gave up in the end and fitted a Holley style carb. Do some searching around and you will find it's a very common problem with these carbs but there doesn't seem to be an easy fix.
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Re: Off Idle Stumble Edelbrock 800
[Re: GO_Fish]
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03/20/11 10:57 PM
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Same exact problem with my Edelbrock 750. Tried everything. Got so frustrated, I went with a Mighty Demon 750 with a 1 inch four hole spacer and solved the problem.
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Re: Off Idle Stumble Edelbrock 800
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03/21/11 07:58 PM
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750 Eddy's are known to have problems. They are a different animal than the 800 Eddy. Easier to get the 800 running right than a 750.
Another thought on the 800. Is the air door too loose (this would be one of the last things to check unless you changed the factory adjustment already)? It should not start to open as soon as you crack the throttle. Did your 800 come with a CD manual for tuning? The Edelbrock website also has PDF manuals on their website to help with tuning.
Last edited by GO_Fish; 03/21/11 08:01 PM.
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Re: Off Idle Stumble Edelbrock 800
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03/21/11 08:06 PM
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Heard bad things about the 750, 600 is good, first I have heard from the 800. Do they have check valves under the squirter? Make sure it still has one. Looks like a square bullet? smaller squirters give you a longer shot, pump arm holes give you volume. they both hit at the same time.
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Re: Off Idle Stumble Edelbrock 800
[Re: Moe]
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03/27/11 04:40 PM
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Thanks for the tips guys. Pump arm starts to move as soon as the thottle is broke. Edelbrock Performer RPM. No room for a spacer. No check ball or block under the accel pump nozzle on the 800. Just a spring. I put the .043 squirter back on (removed the.052), moved the accel pump arm to the middle hole and will try again. I have the blue 3 in. Hg step-up springs in it now. Plugs don't show a lean condition AT ALL. I could try to richen the primary circut up one step. I am hoping it was a vacuum leak. Put a new intake gasket on. Would changing back to the OE orange do anything?
Sputnik, Thanks for the link.
I played around with my 750 when it had this problem, Almost had it gone with the squirters incresed to around .056", opened up the IFRs, this was on a very mild 440 with good man. vacuum (around 20 in.), As the temp changed in the manifold it would affect the Eddy, even though it had a Phenolic 1/2" spacer & the carb was cool, the pump would squirt fuel the second you touch the throttle, it was perfect in that area, I came to the conclusion its in the metering in relation of the boosters, I installed an old 3310-1 holley & it was a done deal, Even tried an 850 TQ, That ran the best (power wise) WOT but was finiky.
Heres the why i see it, I had 2 factory Mopars back when, A 70 Sport Satty, 383, AVS carb, & a 66 Monaco 500, 383 with an AFB, these were both factory carbs, The throttle responce & excelleration (part throttle) were outstanding, could'nt ask for a better carb, But once Eddy re-tooled an old design with there metering, They screwed up a good carb, If you can find an old AFB or AVS factory carb (theres many on here 4-sale) in good working condition your problems will misteriously disapear , that'll say it all about those Eddys.
Last edited by joedust451; 03/27/11 04:59 PM.
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