Re: Stock stroke 360 on the dyno
[Re: Streetwize]
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03/14/11 02:28 PM
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LOL Patrick, yeah every time I trip over the "extra" motor in my limited garage I realize what a head-case I am!
The 414 $$ deal just kind of was an offer I couldn't refuse
You were gonna be sent to sleep with da fish if you didnt buy it?
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Re: Stock stroke 360 on the dyno
[Re: cbarracuda]
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03/15/11 01:18 AM
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thank guys next time I will buy am R3 block, I will leave the bore at 3.900 to have thicker wall.
No need to be sarcastic Carlos. Besides your 360 has a bore of 4.00" you would need to sleeve it to go down to 3,90. Heck even the 318 is just 3,91" std bore.
In the end, the extra 0,040" overbore you are thinking of will yield just an extra 8 inches on a 4" stroke crank motor.
That should amount to an extra 10hp - 15hp on your w2 motor at the most. Thats if your cylinder walls are nice and thick at the thrust side.
If you think that will give you the extra edge that you need to go win races, then go for it.
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Re: Stock stroke 360 on the dyno
[Re: domingo]
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03/15/11 09:21 AM
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Well after testing yesterday morning I was able to try a few things that may be of some interest to some. The air quality was very good yesterday with the correction factor hovering at about 1.00 which is rare. Usually the STP correction factor is anywhere from 1.025-1.05 Anyways I started with the four hole Wilson and power was 427-428 @ 5900-6000rpm with torque in the 435-437 ft/lb range with excellent consistency from pull to pull. Jetting wound up @ 80-85 with the customers 750 Proform. Timing was 35 total and not changed. Just to satisfy my curiosity I removed the electric water pump and installed the customer's water pump with a single v belt. Torque was unaffected but power was now down about 7-8 hp at the very top of the RPM range. The last 2 tests were to verify power output minus the spacer and electric water pump. Torque was solidly up into the 440 lb/ft range with horsepower unaffected and still hanging @ 420-421. The no spacer pull's averages were actually 1 hp and 1.5 ft/lbs better over the entire 3500 rpm-6000 rpm span. I do not have a scanner at the shop so maybe I can scan and post the sheets tonight. I will have another stock stroke 360 with ported EQ Magnums on the dyno soon-it will be very interesting to see how it compares. J.Rob
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Re: Stock stroke 360 on the dyno
[Re: Rapid340]
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03/15/11 11:24 AM
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1.2 ft-lb/cid is pretty nice for a simple, low tech street motor...
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Re: Stock stroke 360 on the dyno
[Re: cudadoug]
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03/15/11 12:42 PM
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Thanks for the thanks. I am quite hopeful that the EQ headed 367 will make quite a bit more steam than this mild example-but--- you never really know until you do it. Sometimes less really is more. J.Rob
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Re: Stock stroke 360 on the dyno
[Re: RAMM]
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03/15/11 01:31 PM
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Depending on how you prepped the EQ heads and camshaft, I think they may surpirse some people here.
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Re: Stock stroke 360 on the dyno
[Re: CompWedgeEngines]
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03/15/11 02:19 PM
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Depending on how you prepped the EQ heads and camshaft, I think they may surpirse some people here.
I would agree. Although we're not done with them, the EQ's I have flow VERY WELL below .550 and very near the RHS heads on our bracket car above .550.
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Re: Stock stroke 360 on the dyno
[Re: RAMM]
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12/29/15 11:27 PM
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Impressive! I have almost the exact same built going in to a 2100 lb street rod with 3.55 gearing - 727 trans with 3000 stall convertor. Can I get it in the 12's?
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Re: Stock stroke 360 on the dyno
[Re: Crizila]
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12/30/15 06:51 PM
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Impressive! I have almost the exact same built going in to a 2100 lb street rod with 3.55 gearing - 727 trans with 3000 stall convertor. Can I get it in the 12's? Easy
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