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a little help w a lift off hood #947207
03/09/11 06:16 PM
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hey fellas i have a lift off cowl hood coming fri,my question is the zeus fasteners which ones to use and the brackets that hold them down,,moroso??? maybe

Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: fishy340] #947208
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I used moroso brackets,springs,and buttons.Worked out nice but just did a custom rail for 2000 Firebird for his lift off and would do that instead now.I like the way it looks and can put fastners where I want and can contour the hood better.Don't use alum rivets I made that mistake and lost the hood a 120 or so.The rivets sheared after 30 or 40 passes.


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Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: 1967dartgt] #947209
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Mine was done with rails, much better support around the edges.

It also has some fabbed brackets in the front and in the back supporting the sides of the cowl hood.




Jim

Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: fishy340] #947210
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Regular pins are BESTer .... and far more durable and more holding "power". And if the hood is made right and braced properly ....you don't need that many of them.

Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: dOc …] #947211
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RAILS is what the chassis guys are making i just wanna have the stuff,cause when he says bring it in i cant have any delays,this dude is always swamped w buisness..THANKS BOYS for the input

Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: Bigcube] #947212
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Damn BigCube ... it must take you 20 minutes to get all those fasteners loose to get hood off ! ...and it sure looks like you could have used one of those hoods with the rear cowl section.

Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: dOc …] #947213
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Regular pins are BESTer .... and far more durable and more holding "power". And if the hood is made right and braced properly ....you don't need that many of them.




Dzuz are slow on slow off and prone to making you scratch the paint no matter how hard you try not to do it.
pins are my choice especially in case of an emergency like seeing smoke


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Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: HEMIFRED] #947214
03/09/11 08:58 PM
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Regular pins are BESTer .... and far more durable and more holding "power". And if the hood is made right and braced properly ....you don't need that many of them.




Dzuz are slow on slow off and prone to making you scratch the paint no matter how hard you try not to do it.
pins are my choice especially in case of an emergency like seeing smoke




But they are UGLY............ JMO

Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: dOc …] #947215
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Damn BigCube ... it must take you 20 minutes to get all those fasteners loose to get hood off ! ...and it sure looks like you could have used one of those hoods with the rear cowl section.



The cowl covers the removable panel, plus it's a good place to hide the gauges. The way my chassis was built the stock vent grate was a leak into the interior. The removable panel also closed off a water leak AND made room for the air cleaner.

Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: fishy340] #947216
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Much as I hate to agree with Doc Fibberglass, I have to go with pins as well. My Dzus adventure would have killed someone had I not been as far down the track when they let go.

Pins from here on out for me. Ugly? Maybe. Safe? Definitely.

Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: snook] #947217
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damn,decisions i have 2 real reaL nice pins,there from hotchkis i think thats how u spell it lol..i had pins on my dart hood...i'm gonna have to flip a coin or something..i guess i wont sell the pins till im sure

Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: fishy340] #947218
03/09/11 11:44 PM
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I am pinned,hood & trunk.But that's cause I'm CHEAP!!

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Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: snook] #947219
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Much as I hate to agree with Doc Fibberglass, I have to go with pins as well. My Dzus adventure would have killed someone had I not been as far down the track when they let go.

Pins from here on out for me. Ugly? Maybe. Safe? Definitely.




HATE to agree with 'da Doc ?

You should be HAPPY .... you are finally doing-some clear-thinking ..

Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: Bigcube] #947220
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The cowl covers the removable panel, plus it's a good place to hide the gauges. The way my chassis was built the stock vent grate was a leak into the interior. The removable panel also closed off a water leak AND made room for the air cleaner.





YOU have almost as many gauges as that GUY with the 63 BELLveeDEER ....

Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: dOc …] #947221
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The cowl covers the removable panel, plus it's a good place to hide the gauges. The way my chassis was built the stock vent grate was a leak into the interior. The removable panel also closed off a water leak AND made room for the air cleaner.





YOU have almost as many gauges as that GUY with the 63 BELLveeDEER ....



But I hide them better

Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: dOc …] #947222
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On a serious note ....

I have seen single Dzus (normally on the corners) fail ...and then the whole SYSTEM fails and the panel exits the vehicle ... because there is so little holding-strength on a single Dzus.

Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: Bigcube] #947223
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heres what I did fwiw, and yeah easy to scratch the paint with the dzuz

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Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: dOc …] #947224
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On a serious note ....

I have seen single Dzus (on the corners) ...and then the whole SYSTEM fails and the whole panel exits the vehicle ... because there is so little holding-strength on a single Dzus.




I'll be using Dzus on my new hood... I use more than 4,
my hood on the P has 10 was 12 with the old hood with
the scoop attached but the scoop is separate now and
mounts to the engine(with 3 Dzus) but its slow only 150

Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: MR_P_BODY] #947225
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I have 4 Areocatch latches on the fiberglass deck lid on my 70 cuda, have them for the hood also but have not installed them yet. No pins or screw drivers to scratch your paint. I put a set of 4 on my buddy's chevy hood , it has a multi thousand dollar paint job. he loves them. He runs high 8"s at 150+ . Now with my paint job , a person would question my sanity. Great product, got them off e-bay from MiataRoadster.


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Re: a little help w a lift off hood [Re: rowin4] #947226
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I have 4 Areocatch latches on the fiberglass deck lid on my 70 cuda, have them for the hood also but have not installed them yet. No pins or screw drivers to scratch your paint. I put a set of 4 on my buddy's chevy hood , it has a multi thousand dollar paint job. he loves them. He runs high 8"s at 150+ . Now with my paint job , a person would question my sanity. Great product, got them off e-bay from MiataRoadster.






I always liked them... but they're pretty pricey

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