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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods???
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03/20/11 11:19 AM
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I won't have much interest, most won't have much "positive" interest, and you will like your vehicle.
To each his own.
There it is "I won't have much interest"
Who cares if you have any interest at all? You do, but as shown it is all about you.
I have zero concern about what interests you or about 99,9999999997% of the people on this planet. I care about what interests me not you and I can almost guarantee that whatever I may build you will never see it, ride in it, hear it or drive it. So why should I GAF about what you want, like or think? or for that matter anyone else?
I get you and your attitude. I also get you have a hard time understanding things. I never said I wanted a SBC in anything. I did say an LS motor, which is not a SBC. Pay attention.
I think if you read the original post you will see this thread is about a "350 Chevy Engine."
The thread is what I am replying to, your posts are just what came up that I replied to.
Unfortunately I have been "paying attention".
So if it is necessary- let me rephrase so you know exactly "my attitude".
You can buy a Duesenberg, pull the original engine and toss in an LS1 engine. You now have more power than the original Duesenberg engine did, and after doing the swap the money you save over redoing the Duesenberg engine, which woulda been expensive- will allow you to have steak and champagne with your buddies.
You can take the resulting vehicle to a car show, and you will be proud of your work I am sure.
Many people will walk by your Duesenberg. Some people will like it, as you do.
I have a feeling this is where you stop understanding, but I will post it anyways.
Duesenberg guys will walk by your vehicle, and shake their heads, not have interest, or think you have destroyed a beautiful vehicle.
You MIGHT find a Duesenberg guy who likes it, but it is against the odds.
You will STILL like your vehicle.
It doesn't matter what I think about your vehicle that matters to you, or what the Duesenberg guys think about your vehicle that matters to you.
If you take your Duesenberg to a Duesenberg show, the other Duesenberg owners will probably alienate you because they don't feel an LS1 Chevy engine belongs in a Duesenberg, but that doesn't matter.
You can take out your anger on the situation on them, but it doesn't change things. You will like your car, many Duesneberg guys will NOT like your car, and the result is...?
TO EACH HIS OWN.
CrAzYMoPaRGuY
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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods???
[Re: Supercuda]
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03/20/11 12:24 PM
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2010 Popular Hot Rodding Engine Challenge: First place: Gen III Hemi Highest finishing LS: Fourth place Highest peak horsepower in the event: Gen III Hemi The magazine described the Gen III Hemi's victory: Quote:
Bischoff's Mopar, as top qualifier, was the last to run in the finals. With numbers in the 2,500s in qualifying and no competitor in the finals other than Lahone even breaking out of the 2,300-point range, it seemed like a lock on the championship for the high-tech Mopar combination. Bischoff seemed to just cruise through the final eliminations, making three clean dyno pulls for a score of 2,502.6, 68.8 points up on Lahone, and 133.8 over Kaase's Chevy. Considering that every competition as far back as we can remember has been decided by a scarce few points, and in one instance, just fractions of a point, 2010 was a rout. Bischoff and his Mopar flat owned the competition, even taking the honor for highest peak horsepower of the event. With such a convincing exhibition of power, no one could argue against Bischoff's claim to the title of "Engine Master."
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginem...gap_intake.html
So much for your vaunted Chevy LS. . . .
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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods???
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03/20/11 01:22 PM
03/20/11 01:22 PM
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2010 Popular Hot Rodding Engine Challenge:
First place: Gen III Hemi
Highest finishing LS: Fourth place
Highest peak horsepower in the event: Gen III Hemi
The magazine described the Gen III Hemi's victory:
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Bischoff's Mopar, as top qualifier, was the last to run in the finals. With numbers in the 2,500s in qualifying and no competitor in the finals other than Lahone even breaking out of the 2,300-point range, it seemed like a lock on the championship for the high-tech Mopar combination. Bischoff seemed to just cruise through the final eliminations, making three clean dyno pulls for a score of 2,502.6, 68.8 points up on Lahone, and 133.8 over Kaase's Chevy. Considering that every competition as far back as we can remember has been decided by a scarce few points, and in one instance, just fractions of a point, 2010 was a rout. Bischoff and his Mopar flat owned the competition, even taking the honor for highest peak horsepower of the event. With such a convincing exhibition of power, no one could argue against Bischoff's claim to the title of "Engine Master."
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginem...gap_intake.html
So much for your vaunted Chevy LS. . . .
That's a pretty cool article.
I know it has been done but has anyone ever seen or put a 6.1L or 5.7L in a 30's car? I think it would be pretty spiffy in a 32 Dodge.
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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods???
[Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
#946497
03/20/11 02:31 PM
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MoparRon started a thread on the HAMB about mopars in mopars (traditional hot rods) a couple years ago. Here's my response from back then...
This is a traditional site. That means 4's up until the ford flatty, and not much else except the jimmys until the OHV V8s started hitting. That sorted itself out by the late 50s to the SBC for early fords due to HP, cost and that they fit. Sure, there were other motors, but that was the most common. There were very few rods that weren't early Fords. Then the SBC also took over the musclecars. It also got a lot of help and backing in racing. It is the most common in almost every form, from stock ma and pa cars to off road, to rods, to drag and circle track racing. It is the most available and the most common. Mopars were traditionally a breed apart. They were also-rans, low powered and different. They were not cool, not coveted, and didn't have much history in rodding. The 50's hemi was revered for it's power, but didn't fit easily into the earlier Mopars. The hemi was jammed into everything, and the rest of the car was tossed aside. Again, no respect. The thing is, no one except us diehard Mopar guys cared. We appreciated less wood in the bodies, juice brakes from the late 20s, independent front suspension from the mid 30s, more interior room in just about every case, and a solid frame. The only thing lacking was an easy motor swap. The same thing that made the SBC such a nice fit in a 32-40 Ford. There were a few groundbreaking swaps, and it became okay to have a mopar. There has even been special areas in NSRA shows for decades for the 'different' Mopars. Prices and availability have driven most to what were formerly 2nd and 3rd tier cars. Years ago, rodders would stumble over A's to get to deuces and Model 40s. Now A's are hot. There is a new group of people that compare 40-50s cars across makes and see a good deal with the Mopar steel, without the stigma that they formerly held. That's good and bad. It makes information, new reproduction, kit and repair parts more likely, but drives up the price of the cars and the old parts due to demand. The old hard core Mopar guys may be griping partly due to this, but it's more likely due to seeing that same engine that we all tend to see as boring, overdone and the easy way out, the engine that has the same appeal as Walmart VS the corner hardware store to us being installed in one of 'our' cars. Sure it's really YOUR car, but if you want to go mainstream, just go get a Ford or a Chevy and stick that thing in there. Leave the Mopars as unique, different, special cars. You won't hear this cry nearly as much if you wanted to drop in a Buick nailhead, a GMC 6, or a Olds Rocket. You may get some flack from those who revere those makes. The SBC is like a state religion; they are the majority. They think everyone has the same views, and when they see someone who doesn't, they try to force their views on them too. The SBC has pervaded the landscape, and it's a less appealing place because of that.
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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods???
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#946498
03/20/11 05:01 PM
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I totally agree Ron, The easiest thing in life is to be just like everybody else. I think one reason we like Mopar so much is because we like different. Randy 
Hmm. how many LS1's do you figure people have stuffed into a 65 Cuda? Bet that answer is on one hand.
How many you figure had a mopar engine? All of them. So who's being like everyone else?
Let me guess, most of your rods have a coil over 4 link setup, probably with a 9" Ford rear too.
Be different but only if you follow someone else's rules, lol.
Good point!! Thats why i don't trash other peoples cars anymore, I'll never forget not too long ago i was at my local track racing my Duster, never really had many Mopars there, but one night here comes this Dart, he pulls it off the trailer, whats in it, a BB chevy, did it run good, yes it did, beat my 451, I didn't bother saying anything, he gave me that smerky look, after a while i got to chatting with him, he said it was just cheaper going this way, he had the car & the engine, plus he was a welder by trade, he had about 3K in the engine, car ran mid 10s, can't complain about that.
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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods???
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03/20/11 06:42 PM
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If you're running a 65 Barracuda, you're already different from almost everyone else no matter what engine you have.
I don't know where some of you get your cheap Chevy engines. My son-in-law bracket races a big block Chevelle, and each of his motors have cost him on the high side of $10,000 - and he's been through several, since none of them has lasted too long before blowing up. Paid $5,000 for the car; probably has 80 grand in it now. It is fast (runs 9's) when it's running; right now it's between motors.
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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods???
[Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
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03/21/11 08:51 PM
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If any have a Duesenberg engine laying around----send it to me---freight collect----I might even pay scrap price for it. I will find something for it to go into.
Generator for a motorhome....?
gokart motor.........
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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods???
[Re: moparx]
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03/21/11 08:54 PM
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If any have a Duesenberg engine laying around----send it to me---freight collect----I might even pay scrap price for it. I will find something for it to go into.
Generator for a motorhome....?
gokart motor.........
Engine swap into a Skoda. 
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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods???
[Re: MuuMuu101]
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03/23/11 02:51 PM
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2010 Popular Hot Rodding Engine Challenge:
First place: Gen III Hemi
Highest finishing LS: Fourth place
Highest peak horsepower in the event: Gen III Hemi
The magazine described the Gen III Hemi's victory:
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Bischoff's Mopar, as top qualifier, was the last to run in the finals. With numbers in the 2,500s in qualifying and no competitor in the finals other than Lahone even breaking out of the 2,300-point range, it seemed like a lock on the championship for the high-tech Mopar combination. Bischoff seemed to just cruise through the final eliminations, making three clean dyno pulls for a score of 2,502.6, 68.8 points up on Lahone, and 133.8 over Kaase's Chevy. Considering that every competition as far back as we can remember has been decided by a scarce few points, and in one instance, just fractions of a point, 2010 was a rout. Bischoff and his Mopar flat owned the competition, even taking the honor for highest peak horsepower of the event. With such a convincing exhibition of power, no one could argue against Bischoff's claim to the title of "Engine Master."
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginem...gap_intake.html
So much for your vaunted Chevy LS. . . .
That's a pretty cool article.
I know it has been done but has anyone ever seen or put a 6.1L or 5.7L in a 30's car? I think it would be pretty spiffy in a 32 Dodge.
that is a pretty serious looking intake manifold. Anybody know what it is? Mopar doesn't list anything like it on their website, but I think the drag-pack cars run something similar, don't they?
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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods???
[Re: Supercuda]
#946508
03/23/11 09:18 PM
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http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginem...gap_intake.html
So much for your vaunted Chevy LS. . . .
For some reason this page won't load on my browser.
Did they break down the $$ per hp? Cause cubic dollars to make hp is out of my budget and to be honest getting 500hp out of an LS is fairly cheap and more than enough for most, me included.
I don't imagine cost was an issue for any of these engines, but the Gen III Hemi made 700 horsepower - about 50 more than the best LS.
This is kinda all beside the point, though, considering that most street rods have probably 250-350 horsepower. Cost doesn't explain someone dropping a 305 Chevy into an old Mopar instead of a 318. I've been offered running 318's for FREE. Can't get much cheaper than that.
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