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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: Supercuda] #946453
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A small block cheby is still a small block cheby. I don't care how much they change the design. If you don't like it, stick it up your exhaust!


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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: Supercuda] #946454
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Oh I agree, but unless it's a Hemi a MoPar engine isn't all that visually different enough from a SBC or BBC to make it stand out. In fact it could be argued that the SBC has a lot more available to it in the aftermarket to make it stand out visually than a MoPar does.

Me, I am more of a form follows function kind of guy. I prefer the stealth look and want performance over pretty any day. By definition a street rod is more looks over performance and a hot rod is more performance over looks. So I guess it's all in what you want.




You can change how the LS1 looks as well, for both form and function of course too..

(And 330 hp stock basically and 26 - 27 mpg is hard to say no too, plus all aluminum of course)


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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: OzHemi] #946455
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I always love when this topic comes up.

But the bottom line is its your own car, do what you want----understand resale is a killer on swaps like this though....usually.............

It is possible to find someone that is willing to have an offbeat swap, but they are probably few and far between. At least on the Mopar side, most guys want Mopar engines, but a few do not care.


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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: 85_Ram_4speed] #946456
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I always love when this topic comes up.

But the bottom line is its your own car, do what you want----understand resale is a killer on swaps like this though....usually.............

It is possible to find someone that is willing to have an offbeat swap, but they are probably few and far between. At least on the Mopar side, most guys want Mopar engines, but a few do not care.




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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: rattler] #946457
03/13/11 10:45 PM
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1st, here is my 85 Monte Carlo SS with a LT1. Mounted like it was factory stock, better economy, way more power than the 305. It really gets heads turned at the cruise-in and it's the old generation fuel injection. But I wouldn't put it in a MoPar. I like different.

Also, to go back further than the SBC in the mid to late 50's. Read up on some of the older, true Hot Rodders. The engines of choice were the Lincoln and Cadillac mills. They built more power, but were more expensive. Son, your gonna drive me to drinking if you don't stop driving that Hot - Rod - Lincoln.

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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: Apollo 13] #946458
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True, there has almost always been something more powerful than the SBC to stuff into a hotrod, even back in the day. I've heard about surplus fighter aircraft engines stuffed into things. But for the money and the ease of installation, the SBC got the nod and by the time Mopar or Ford came up with their version of a light weight, small package V8 Chevy had about 10 year head start. Tough to overcome that kind of a jump. The SBC aftermarket has been developing things since the mid 50's, that's 50+ years of history. The LA outlasted the Windsor Ford, but it still never had the aftermarket support that the SBC had and it's fading fast for us.

Even today, the LS engine gets more aftermarket support than the Gen III hemi. Want to put an LS into a Fiero, there's a kit. Want to put a Hemi into a 65 Cuda? Good luck Columbus because you'll be into uncharted territory.

And that is why the SBC is the engine most seen in a street rod.


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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: Supercuda] #946459
03/14/11 02:19 AM
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True, there has almost always been something more powerful than the SBC to stuff into a hotrod, even back in the day. I've heard about surplus fighter aircraft engines stuffed into things. But for the money and the ease of installation, the SBC got the nod and by the time Mopar or Ford came up with their version of a light weight, small package V8 Chevy had about 10 year head start. Tough to overcome that kind of a jump. The SBC aftermarket has been developing things since the mid 50's, that's 50+ years of history. The LA outlasted the Windsor Ford, but it still never had the aftermarket support that the SBC had and it's fading fast for us.

Even today, the LS engine gets more aftermarket support than the Gen III hemi. Want to put an LS into a Fiero, there's a kit. Want to put a Hemi into a 65 Cuda? Good luck Columbus because you'll be into uncharted territory.

And that is why the SBC is the engine most seen in a street rod.




Actually, RMS provides mounts for swapping a Gen III into a Barracuda, and burtillion performance can provide a lot of the aftermarket to install them (wiring harnesses, radiator, computers, etc). And TTi provides the exhaust. Just saying.

Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: MuuMuu101] #946460
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True, there has almost always been something more powerful than the SBC to stuff into a hotrod, even back in the day. I've heard about surplus fighter aircraft engines stuffed into things. But for the money and the ease of installation, the SBC got the nod and by the time Mopar or Ford came up with their version of a light weight, small package V8 Chevy had about 10 year head start. Tough to overcome that kind of a jump. The SBC aftermarket has been developing things since the mid 50's, that's 50+ years of history. The LA outlasted the Windsor Ford, but it still never had the aftermarket support that the SBC had and it's fading fast for us.

Even today, the LS engine gets more aftermarket support than the Gen III hemi. Want to put an LS into a Fiero, there's a kit. Want to put a Hemi into a 65 Cuda? Good luck Columbus because you'll be into uncharted territory.

And that is why the SBC is the engine most seen in a street rod.




Actually, RMS provides mounts for swapping a Gen III into a Barracuda, and burtillion performance can provide a lot of the aftermarket to install them (wiring harnesses, radiator, computers, etc). And TTi provides the exhaust. Just saying.




None of them provide squat for a 1965 Cuda. 67 and up? Sure. Not 66 and earlier and they are different enough for the later swap stuff to not work without rework and in that case I may as well save the money and do it myself.


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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: Supercuda] #946461
03/14/11 08:06 PM
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but it can be done on the earlier A bodys, a guy out here has a nice dart with a 5.7 hemi in it

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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: Mopar Ron] #946462
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looks like a nice fit
I wouldn't even give it a second look if it had a chevy in it

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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: Mopar Ron] #946463
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Only thing I don't like with alot of engine swaps is just sticking one of those air filters on it (drawing in all the hot engine air) just looks really unfinished to me.

I just spent some time and made up an aluminum box for my filter that draws cool air through the core support (just behind the grill)

Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: Supercuda] #946464
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True, there has almost always been something more powerful than the SBC to stuff into a hotrod, even back in the day. I've heard about surplus fighter aircraft engines stuffed into things. But for the money and the ease of installation, the SBC got the nod and by the time Mopar or Ford came up with their version of a light weight, small package V8 Chevy had about 10 year head start. Tough to overcome that kind of a jump. The SBC aftermarket has been developing things since the mid 50's, that's 50+ years of history. The LA outlasted the Windsor Ford, but it still never had the aftermarket support that the SBC had and it's fading fast for us.

Even today, the LS engine gets more aftermarket support than the Gen III hemi. Want to put an LS into a Fiero, there's a kit. Want to put a Hemi into a 65 Cuda? Good luck Columbus because you'll be into uncharted territory.

And that is why the SBC is the engine most seen in a street rod.




Actually, RMS provides mounts for swapping a Gen III into a Barracuda, and burtillion performance can provide a lot of the aftermarket to install them (wiring harnesses, radiator, computers, etc). And TTi provides the exhaust. Just saying.




None of them provide squat for a 1965 Cuda. 67 and up? Sure. Not 66 and earlier and they are different enough for the later swap stuff to not work without rework and in that case I may as well save the money and do it myself.




Here's the front alterktion with mounts for the 65 Barracuda:

http://www.reillymotorsports.com/store/product.php?productid=16187&cat=269&page=1

Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: MuuMuu101] #946465
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Here's the other side of the coin - a Mopar powerplant in a Chevy (well sorta... a Canadian Beaumont). Sorry for the link to a Chebby board, but this one's kinda different:

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181312

No progress posts since last Sept., so I don't know where the project went from there... but it's definitely different!

Chevy in a Mopar... Mopar in a Chevy... whatever floats your boat, but it's all hot rodding to me and all part of the great big ol' world of the car hobby. I personally love the variety.

Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: ChryCoGuy] #946466
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Chevy in a Mopar... Mopar in a Chevy... whatever floats your boat, but it's all hot rodding to me and all part of the great big ol' world of the car hobby. I personally love the variety.



You made the point that a lot of others are making, variety is good. Everything having a 350 Chevy in it is not variety.

Arno

Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: B1arno] #946467
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Chevy in a Mopar... Mopar in a Chevy... whatever floats your boat, but it's all hot rodding to me and all part of the great big ol' world of the car hobby. I personally love the variety.



You made the point that a lot of others are making, variety is good. Everything having a 350 Chevy in it is not variety.

Arno




Now that looks like a cool project! I like what he did with the tail lights too. And I like how he changed the intake on the viper engine to make it seem like it is his own.

Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: B1arno] #946468
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You made the point that a lot of others are making, variety is good. Everything having a 350 Chevy in it is not variety.

Arno




Yeah, but a Viper V10 in a Canadian-only GM product does constitute variety. So there.



It's all good IMHO...

Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: ChryCoGuy] #946469
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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: Mopar Ron] #946470
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looks like a nice fit
I wouldn't even give it a second look if it had a chevy in it




Sweet, I did some measuring back when I had the money, looked very close, in fact it appeared to me that the pass side shock tower would hit the valve cover. Do you have any more pics? I'd be real interested in seeing how he did it and what he had to do.

As for the alterkation kit, $3800 just for a coil over front steer suspension to put in a Hemi? I don't think so. I can put an LS1 in for that money and have money for beer to celebrate the job being done.


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Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: Supercuda] #946471
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I'll look and see if I have any more pics(I don't think I do)
I do know he still has torsion bars, not sure about the steering box. he said he gets around 25mpg and it's faster than the built 360 that he had in there before and its fun to drive, he said he is probably going to put in a 5 speed just for some more fun

Re: 350 Chevy Engine in Hot Rods??? [Re: Mopar Ron] #946472
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Car Warriors is starting to get annoying. They have had a Chevy or Ford motor for every car even the import today. They need to find something new.

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