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Re: Oil filter Wix or Fram? [Re: stumpy] #943638 03/08/11 08:39 PM 03/08/11 08:39 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours Supercuda About to go away
Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Quote: If the shoe fits. It appears to fit you well, it matches your eyes. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Oil filter Wix or Fram? [Re: desomod] #943639 03/09/11 12:35 AM 03/09/11 12:35 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,688 Marlboro, NY, USA R Rick_Ehrenberg top fuel
Rick_Ehrenberg top fuel R Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,688 Marlboro, NY, USA	The last max-flow performance test at Chrysler Engineering had ALL Chrysler-thread filters opening the bypass valve too soon. Wix was best, but none were good enough. Chrysler had Wix make a special version of their premium filter with a higher bypass setting, but you CANNOT buy it from Wix. Mopar Part number 5038041AA. I believe this is the best street oil filter money can buy. It is labelled "SRT". Comes bagged, then capped, then boxed. Rick Ehrenberg

Re: Oil filter Wix or Fram? [Re: Kern Dog] #943640 03/09/11 12:44 AM 03/09/11 12:44 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,688 Marlboro, NY, USA R Rick_Ehrenberg top fuel
Rick_Ehrenberg top fuel R Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,688 Marlboro, NY, USA	Quote: <snip!> The HP1 filters are some of the best you can find on the shelf. Mopar Action's Rick Ehrenberg uses them on his motors. I trust him. Make that DID run them -- see my other post / pic. One comment, and I know I'll get hammered for this, but I can take it. Appearances can be deceiving. The only way to compare oil filters is with flow testing. For 50+ years, Chrysler has made cheap cars that blow away expensive "well made Euro" crap. Clever engineering is the name of the game. If you can take 5 cents out of a product, and it still works as well, or better, you're a clever engineer. Anybody can make good stuff with lots of money backing it up. Fram looks like crap inside, agreed, but seems to do the job. The only objective test I have ever seen, besides the ones at Chrysler Engineering (again, see my other post), was in Consumer Reports maybe 8 or 10 years ago. Rick Ehrenberg

Re: Oil filter Wix or Fram? [Re: Rick_Ehrenberg] #943641 03/09/11 01:03 AM 03/09/11 01:03 AM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,177 ill D dennismopar73 top fuel
dennismopar73 top fuel D Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,177 ill	not another one of these threads please!!!!! buy a filter what ever filter you like and run that , please ,,

Re: Oil filter Wix or Fram? [Re: desomod] #943642 03/09/11 07:45 AM 03/09/11 07:45 AM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,285 Pacific NW USA CompSyn pro stock
CompSyn pro stock Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,285 Pacific NW USA	Wix� Fram� You guys are talking about oil filters that are built with paper filter media. Did you know that oil filters made with paper filter media are 40% blocked as in 40% of the filtering surface won�t flow anything? Consider looking into oil filters that are made with 100% micro-glass or nano-glass filter media of which there is a couple of manufactures producing them today. Glass oil filters can filter efficiently down to 10 microns at 100% flow� VS. paper filters; 25 microns at 60% flow.

Re: Oil filter Wix or Fram? [Re: go-fish] #943643 03/09/11 10:50 AM 03/09/11 10:50 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 541 chatham, Ilinois F fox super street
fox super street F Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 541 chatham, Ilinois	The Cummins engine uses piston cooling jets. Many warrantee issues came up years ago and ALL of those cases had the fram filters!!!! They found filter cardboard in the jets and it caused piston failure from heat. Cummins said no more warrantte if fram is used. Your warrantee goes to fram. Make a few good filters and the rest junk and some will claim all are good. Buyer beware.

Re: Oil filter Wix or Fram? [Re: fox] #943644 03/09/11 12:53 PM 03/09/11 12:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 693 Coronado, CA G go-fish mopar
go-fish mopar G Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 693 Coronado, CA	Quote: The Cummins engine uses piston cooling jets. Many warrantee issues came up years ago and ALL of those cases had the fram filters!!!! They found filter cardboard in the jets and it caused piston failure from heat. Cummins said no more warrantte if fram is used. Your warrantee goes to fram. Make a few good filters and the rest junk and some will claim all are good. Buyer beware. I don't think anyone in this thread said all Fram's were good. The biggest gripe is with the PH8A and the rest of the PH line. I even said the only fram I would use was the HP1. In the end, the facts are out there. Use what you wish! 70 'cuda: ProCharged 408, Tremec 5 speed, S60,triangulated 4 link, Hydroboost and Wilwoods

Re: Oil filter Wix or Fram? [Re: desomod] #943645 03/09/11 01:42 PM 03/09/11 01:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,758 Moved to N.E. Tennessee GomangoCuda master
GomangoCuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,758 Moved to N.E. Tennessee	I found a case of HP1 frams that I bought over 30 years ago. Is there a shelf life on filters? Should I use them, scrap them or sell them on Ebay LOL? In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

Re: Oil filter Wix or Fram? [Re: fox] #943646 03/09/11 01:49 PM 03/09/11 01:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,533 Indiana F Fury Fan master
Fury Fan master F Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,533 Indiana	Quote: Make a few good filters and the rest junk and some will claim all are good. Buyer beware. Make mostly good items and have a few junk and people will claim all are junk. People believe what they want to believe as true.

Re: Oil filter Wix or Fram? [Re: 69L78Nova] #943647 03/09/11 02:29 PM 03/09/11 02:29 PM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,415 Connecticut Ron_M top fuel
Ron_M top fuel Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,415 Connecticut	Quote: Just out of curiosity, ,why don't people run Mopar filters? I have always run the "090" on everything. I've never had a problem I use everything from Wix / Napa / Carquest and Mopar "090s". Recently, On a very cold day my father and I went to an event in his 3.9L 01 Dakota, (just about due for an oil change). Everythings was fine going there. Backing out to leave, I noticed an oil slick. I shut off the truck. Checked the dipstick - nothing Started truck and had oil pressure and moved truck back and shut off. . I found a tow truck at the event and towed to local dodge dealer. Somehow, the 090 seal area became warped / breached (I'm thinking water got in there and froze/ expanded). Luckily no engine damage Mechanic asked if I had removed and put back which was no (why would I do that). So in 25 years of doing oil changes I have had 1 090 (BTW it came from WalMart) Common sense is a flower that does not grow in everybody's garden

Re: Oil filter Wix or Fram? [Re: Ron_M] #943648 03/09/11 05:02 PM 03/09/11 05:02 PM
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440newport master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,588 St. John's Newfoundland	Anyone know anything about the Mopar #0FE00292 filters? They appear to be made by WIX but I don't know for sure, I got 3 of these a while back that I'll probably use next. They look like the shorter Ph16 size which I need anyways as a PH8 hits my power steering belt on the BB and the headers on a SB.

Re: Oil filter Wix or Fram? [Re: Rick_Ehrenberg] #943649 03/11/11 04:23 AM 03/11/11 04:23 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 183 Macon, Missouri T TJ2 member
TJ2 member T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 183 Macon, Missouri	I did a "Filter Look-Up" on the WIX website, and it shows the Mopar SRT filter, part number 5038041AA cross references to the WIX 57063. I did notice that the thread size on this filter is Metric, with it being 22x1.5MM, so you probably wouldn't want to try it on your small or big block. The principal application is shown to be for the '08-'10 Viper SRT-10 V10 engines.

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