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Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: SCATPACK 1] #943201 01/21/12 04:27 AM 01/21/12 04:27 AM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska astjp2 master
astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	Well I bought the 440 cover, its even worse. I cut the side of the cover to try and clearance it and its still too close. If milodon would have moved the fitting foreward 1/2" it would have worked. Now I am stuck with another part I wont use....

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: astjp2] #943202 01/21/12 11:45 AM 01/21/12 11:45 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 388 Southington, Ohio dm69charger enthusiast
dm69charger enthusiast Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 388 Southington, Ohio	Are those stock Hemi mounts? Maybe trying different mounts or using a plate would be a better aproach?

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: dm69charger] #943203 01/21/12 01:01 PM 01/21/12 01:01 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 388 Southington, Ohio dm69charger enthusiast
dm69charger enthusiast Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 388 Southington, Ohio	Or maybe try reversing the bolts. Go outside in with the bolts instead of inside out like they are now. Unless they are studs, then take them out and try cap head bolts.

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: prochargedhemi] #943204 01/21/12 01:22 PM 01/21/12 01:22 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley RodStRace I Live Here
RodStRace I Live Here Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley	Quote: man what ever happened to people actually having to work to get things to fit? Everyone thinks that you buy aftermarket parts and they just bolt on, YOUR WRONG. However the pump does work with stock hemi mounts. just get a little creative I understand what you are saying, that non-stock doesn't always fit. However, when designing an aftermarket part, it should take stock tolerances into account. They should have a stock block with stock parts bolted to it for fitting. They should also have at least their own aftermarket parts handy for fitting. They might as well sell you a chunk of billet if you gotta machine it to work, especially if they will not warranty the part if any mods are made to it. Would you consider purchasing it if the pump extended into the block area or tilted the filter up where headers normally reside? It's just poor planning on the company's part that it modified the part to extend from stock space into a known tight area.

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: RodStRace] #943205 01/21/12 02:40 PM 01/21/12 02:40 PM
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mr_340 master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,505 DFW	I find that aftermarket parts are generally poorly engineered for fit. I bought a Wilwood pedal assembly that had course thread on the pedal side, and their pushrod that came with their master cylinder had fine thread, or vice-versa. One problem is trying to make things fit between manufacturers when you are mixing and matching. My machinist was complaining about BBC heads since every aftermarket head has different designs. Sometimes having lots of choices leads to fit issues that require mods to put it all together. You almost need a mill and a lathe to build a race car since nothing seems to fit well. Floyd Lippencott IV

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: mr_340] #943206 01/21/12 05:42 PM 01/21/12 05:42 PM
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 319 jonestown,pa D dmking enthusiast
dmking enthusiast D Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 319 jonestown,pa	i have the old green gasket setup. i had to cut the drivers side mount off the k frame and use elephant ears on my 440. i still use the passanger side mount with the ears though

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: mr_340] #943207 01/21/12 06:32 PM 01/21/12 06:32 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 876 Arizona PolyDart super stock
PolyDart super stock Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 876 Arizona	Quote: . You almost need a mill and a lathe to build a race car since nothing seems to fit well. To make matters worse, if you modify the aftermarket part to make it fit, they will often void the warranty. They build a part which will fit nothing, and won't stand behind the part's fitment, or performance once you make their part work This makes me think of my Hooker Super Comp headers for the BB Mopar in an A-body. The design has been out for 40 years. In 40 years Hooker hasn't bothered to fix the problem of one collector aimed towards the ground (for no good reason) and the lack of tire clearance even with 24" tires. Both issues can be easily fixed, but hey, they built their jigs 40 years ago. Why should they spend a dime to make our lives a bit easier?? 1970 Dart Resto-Race Project 1960 Dodge Dart Seneca Dual Quad 390 Poly

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: 65dragnet] #943208 01/21/12 09:52 PM 01/21/12 09:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,244 Canada Kam*Kuda master
Kam*Kuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,244 Canada	Quote: Quote: Nice piece. It only took them 4 years and its twice the price as mine (made in the USA as well) I have two of Muscle Motors covers and they are superb Thanks Mike ! I had a muscle motors cover and it worked great I think it is still on backorder. 1970 Barracuda Convertible 1968 Satellite Street Strip car 1654.5 Mustang 1955 Land Rover

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: Kam*Kuda] #943209 01/22/12 04:00 PM 01/22/12 04:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska astjp2 master
astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	Here is how much I tried to clearance the cover, it will still work on a 440, but not the hemi mount....Tim 7031588-DSCN0136.JPG (521 downloads)

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: astjp2] #943210 03/17/12 05:08 PM 03/17/12 05:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska astjp2 master
astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	Well I got my external oiling done, it only took a week once I found someone willing to bend a line. Here are some pics of a world block, stock mount, stock K-member and the new milodon 31581 road race oil pan. I primed the pump and got 75 PSI with an internally modified M63HV pump. It was expensive but I will never have to worry about the headers melting any form of hose. Tim 7123127-DSCN0213.JPG (286 downloads)

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: astjp2] #943211 03/17/12 05:09 PM 03/17/12 05:09 PM
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astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	Pic 2 7123130-DSCN0214.JPG (271 downloads)

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: astjp2] #943212 03/17/12 05:09 PM 03/17/12 05:09 PM
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astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	Pic 3 7123131-DSCN0215.JPG (256 downloads)

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: astjp2] #943213 03/17/12 05:11 PM 03/17/12 05:11 PM
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astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	Pic 4 7123135-DSCN0216.JPG (236 downloads)

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: astjp2] #943214 03/17/12 05:12 PM 03/17/12 05:12 PM
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astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	Pic 5 7123137-DSCN0218.JPG (293 downloads)

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: astjp2] #943215 03/17/12 07:51 PM 03/17/12 07:51 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA.	I hate to be a gloom and doom guy but PLEASE do a little more research before running that oil line set-up. After I rolled my Daytona on its roof at Norwalk in 2010 I was told by no less than 8 people that you should NEVER run a solid steel or aluminum line without some sort of flex in the line. Looking back at the Milidon system they are built with solid bent lines and then connected to flex lines where they connect to the pump. My solid line broke at the farrel from engine harmonics dumping oil on my tires leading to my wreck. My car passed tech at lots of tracks before this happened and I never gave it a thought until after my wreck when others pointed out my plumbing mistake. I hope this saves you or someone else from wrecking their car. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: pittsburghracer] #943216 03/17/12 08:55 PM 03/17/12 08:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska astjp2 master
astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	Well as an aircraft mechanic, there was an Airworthiness Directive that required hoses to be removed from horizontally opposed recriprocrating engine and be replaced with solid lines. I have done a lot research and determined that the line was too close to the headers to be safe with a hose. That tube is .049 ducticle steel. with the amount of bends the line should flex some and still not crack. Tim

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: astjp2] #943217 03/17/12 09:15 PM 03/17/12 09:15 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA.	That's what I thought and was quite proud of my work. I was a Millwright for 33 years and usually bent tubing every week. I hope it works out for you and it does look very nice. I only wish someone would have said something BEFORE I put my car on its roof. I will make no further comments on your thread so it doesn't get mucked up. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Milodon's new pump cover [Re: pittsburghracer] #943218 03/17/12 09:24 PM 03/17/12 09:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska astjp2 master
astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	How did you route your line? Quote: That's what I thought and was quite proud of my work. I was a Millwright for 33 years and usually bent tubing every week. I hope it works out for you and it does look very nice. I only wish someone would have said something BEFORE I put my car on its roof. I will make no further comments on your thread so it doesn't get mucked up.

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