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Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: SV_MOPARS] #937994
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we purchased thru mancini 2 years ago ,
mono/ shocks and cals
same for ss springs too hahah

for the money we have in the rear of this car
we could build full 4 bar rear with all the dressings
and have gas money

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Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: dennismopar73] #937995
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well not to sound cocky,but on a heavy 12 sec car,what kind of improv are goona really be seen,if the car isn't spinning the tires,and converter is good,maybe thats all she has

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: B1KILLER] #937996
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My Boy ,One Bad Fish



Pic says it all


and dont forget pablo foot brakes that car!

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: fishy340] #937997
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well it had hd spring on it then
now with 474 alk
and diff 8 conv i would have thought
the car would run 10 60 10 70
with 123 plus mph the car now weighs in a 3560
with driver
the car started as a 12 sec car
it should be faster and it should 60 better than that
of a 12 sec car wouldnt ya??
being MR OBEVIOUS here
it not like we put junk together here
this has a complete moser 60 (a $2.500 rear)
nice small stroke to it on alk
went from 10 in tci conv
to 2 diff 8 ta conv
diff not a 12 sec car
but still run better on ss spring than on cals !

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: DemonDust] #937998
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One extreme to the other huh???




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Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: B1KILLER] #937999
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67 Barracuda with caltracs, split mono, and rancho shocks, hooks great and strait 1.53 60ft. never has spun on take off yet. Yes cost was about $1100.00

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: dennismopar73] #938000
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thanks eric for asking
this car is a 67 coronet
440 tweek to 474 now 8 ta conv 4200
on alk, dominator.
car started life as a 12.20 car 30 over 440, full stock inter say 3800 # w 430 gears 29 tire
we put some work in it put new hd springs on it
it then ran 12.0s sixty 1.67 -1.70
since those days it now has the 474 in it
410 gear same tire 29,
running alk and as only ran the best of 11.0 s
at 123 plus mph and 60 has been in the 1.67-1.68 range
we have 60 better with the ss springs at a 1.59
there is alot going on with this combo as you can tell by
the frustration in writting
this car should be running i think alot faster
as the mph suggest
as for cal tracks the money we spent vs the money we spent on ss
we do not see any pickup any where for that
we can rebolt the ss back on this car and have
and duplicated the 1.59 60 , so idono?




Dennis..am I correct in saying you used the HD springs with the Caltracs?...if so..that may have been the mickey in the works. The Caltracs work best with the mono or worn springs. Not very well at all with a SS or a HD spring. I'm not saying you guys don't know your stuff..but there are many out there, including myself, who have had great success with the Caltracs. Is a ladder bar a better race application..sure...even better with a 4-link in most cases...but the Caltracs do work for most...


5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: calmech67] #938001
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guys have run 7's with them soooooo........


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Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: Eric] #938002
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no the car started out using hd spring
them we moved to ss
then we moved to cals mono shocks
we kept looking for why car would leave,
everyone said well cant run stock hd springs ,, so we went to a ss
then everyone said cals is the what ya need ,
which ever the wind blew we did to
spent money on gearing started with 430 went to 456
now we was told that the 474 would like 456 so it got 410
told alot ,
that whats bad ,
it just a sad tale to tell and there is more
but its just all sad

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: moparniac] #938003
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guys have run 7's with them soooooo........


Mustang 10.5 tire guys have run sixes with stock rear suspension As far as leaf springs running in the 8s or 9s Bob Brandt did that back in the early 1980s with a 1963 or 64 shoebox Nova with mono leafs on a set of 28x10x15 slicks corked up on the street and at LACR using a SB Chevy on squeeze I drive my duster on the street with ladder bars and coil overs, no big deal


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Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: dennismopar73] #938004
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They work for me too.
Similar setup to dennismopar73- big boxy 3650 lbs w/me in 10.27@ 132 with 1.44 60 ft
What's not to like
And cost was no where near $1100.00

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: dennismopar73] #938005
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if he is ruuning a basic street car ss springs will be
all he needs
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ss spring will run in the 8 -9 sec zone without any hassel!!
i have run stock springs at 11,0 s
there is alot of stupid things i have done thru out the years
waste money is one of them
there is alot to be said about the front end of the car
and making the car leave than tons of money spent on the rear
for no good reason





100%

When complaints rise about how bad S/S springs are I find in most cases it's incorrect pinion and shackle angle, not the springs.

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: OA5599] #938006
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Maybe my math is bad
$340 for the cal tracks
$340 for the mono spring
http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/catrbarsy1.html
$100 X 2 for the Rancho shocks
http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/rancho.html

comes out to less than $880??

Mine worked great but a sponsor is tubbing and ladder baring my car
so my buddy is taking them.

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: Dodgem] #938007
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Here's how I see it..........

To understand the basic fundementals of how the Caltrac's work........

they are a "Poorman's 4-link". And that's not a put-down. They turn the leafspring into the "upperbar" and work like a 4-link with some built-in slack (or not).

Where I'm situated...............

CalTrac's w/stock 4 or 5 leaf springs and drag shocks would be most cost effective.

Then, sell CalTrac's, to upgrade to a Ladderbar set-up if I'm going to mini-tub. Lose the weight of the leafsprings, gain tire clearance w/o the cutting to install the boxes to more the leafsprings.


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Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: fishy340] #938008
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i'd love to see an 8 or 9 sec ss leaf spring car!! w a 8,9 or even a 10" tire..please show me?




Here you go...


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Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: Dago Red] #938009
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i'd love to see an 8 or 9 sec ss leaf spring car!! w a 8,9 or even a 10" tire..please show me?




Here you go...


Is that Gene Buells car? If so, it never hit the 9`s............knew him well and did some work on his motor when I worked at Pettis. If not, my bad.

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Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: OA5599] #938010
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Cuda will be going for low compression 340 to a 550+ hp 418. I already have M/T Drag Radials, but have been recommended Caltracs. I'm a novice, so who here runs them? Are they worth the $$$ and hassle? Is there a better alternative? Not crazy about the traction bar look, but if it's necessary, I'll do what I need to for traction.

Thanks,





Bolting the cal-tracs to your existing springs will give you an improvement in traction without changing the ride stance of your car, all for about $340. The 9-way shocks are nice for additional adjust-ability, but not 100% necessary. The mono-springs will add a little more movement for extra traction if needed.

One of the nice advantages of the cal-tracs is being able to add pre-load to the passenger side to insure even traction on both sides for a straighter launch. Something that can not be done with SS springs.

SS springs will raise the back of the car about 2" which some feel is a "proper" stance for a Mopar. But now days, the "low" look seems to be more desired, and is my preference.

I have run SS-springs, Cal-tracs, and ladder bars on the street and the track since 1982. I remember adding 1/4" steel plates to the pinion snubber area for the SS springs as the original floor pan distorted. The ladder bars worked great, but rode stiff and noisy.

I feel that for a street driven car, the Cal-tracs are my top choice for a traction aid.



Scott

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: Thumperdart] #938011
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i'd love to see an 8 or 9 sec ss leaf spring car!! w a 8,9 or even a 10" tire..please show me?




Here you go...


Is that Gene Buells car? If so, it never hit the 9`s............knew him well and did some work on his motor when I worked at Pettis. If not, my bad.





mine on a true 10"/28"

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not worth it in yur application.........SS and good shocks will be fine.i went from SS to the complete caltrac setup running mid to high 9s and only picked up a 100th in the 60ft on a small tire car.

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: ProStDodge] #938013
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Cuda will be going for low compression 340 to a 550+ hp 418. I already have M/T Drag Radials, but have been recommended Caltracs. I'm a novice, so who here runs them? Are they worth the $$$ and hassle? Is there a better alternative? Not crazy about the traction bar look, but if it's necessary, I'll do what I need to for traction.

Thanks,





Bolting the cal-tracs to your existing springs will give you an improvement in traction without changing the ride stance of your car, all for about $340. The 9-way shocks are nice for additional adjust-ability, but not 100% necessary. The mono-springs will add a little more movement for extra traction if needed.

One of the nice advantages of the cal-tracs is being able to add pre-load to the passenger side to insure even traction on both sides for a straighter launch. Something that can not be done with SS springs.

SS springs will raise the back of the car about 2" which some feel is a "proper" stance for a Mopar. But now days, the "low" look seems to be more desired, and is my preference.

I have run SS-springs, Cal-tracs, and ladder bars on the street and the track since 1982. I remember adding 1/4" steel plates to the pinion snubber area for the SS springs as the original floor pan distorted. The ladder bars worked great, but rode stiff and noisy.

I feel that for a street driven car, the Cal-tracs are my top choice for a traction aid.



Scott


I could not of said it any better

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