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Re: Hemi fender or not? (AKA WTx)
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That piece of trim looks like it matches up perfectly to the way mine are rolled.
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All regular Challenger fenders have a slightly bent lip as pictured and have a notch on the wheel well trim to match. Barracudas do not have this, but Challengers do.
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Re: Hemi fender or not? (AKA WTx)
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02/22/11 10:31 AM
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wheel lip moldings as they were removed and discarded at Creative on all Hemi Challengers we worked on.
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Compare a stock one to a modified Cuda wheel lip moulding and you can see
Just to Clarify, at Creative Industries, Hemi Challenger wheel lip moldings were discarded, but Hemi 'Cuda wheel lip moldings were modified and re-installed. Correct?
The previous Hemi Fender thread I was referencing leaned more towards Hemi 'Cuda fenders. I imagine you're the guy that posted the info on that thread? Thanks again for all the great info!! You're a real asset to moparts! It provides us with a window to procedures that are not documented on engineering diagrams. 
Tav
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Re: Hemi fender or not? (AKA WTx)
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02/22/11 11:43 AM
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That entire bracket was cut out of the fenders of my Dec 69 built Hemi Challenger.
It has wheel lip mouldings - they were slightly hacked as well.
There seems to be a lot of instances where this was and was not done...both in 70 and 71 on Challengers and 'Cuda's. More instances where it was not cut entirely out.
Here is my Dec 69 Hemi Challenger. 16,000 mile, original paint.
That is a correct Creative modified Hemi-fender.However someone must have added the wheel lip moldings as they were removed and discarded at Creative on all Hemi Challengers we worked on.Not hard to understand as the cars were suppose to have them.Dealer or owner likely put them back on because the car was coded for them.As far as I know there is no documentation about the fender mods or the wheel lip molding removal ever sent to the dealers.
If I was waiting for delivery of my brand new Hemi Challenger and only the rears were on you can bet I would be barking loud at the dealership to put some fronts on!
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Re: Hemi fender or not? (AKA WTx)
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02/22/11 11:46 AM
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I wish I would have took pictures when we did the fenders but of course we did not.They were not hammered but bent with a modified visegrip welding plier.Two modified welding pliers (different than the bending tool) held the aluminum form on the outside on the fender,one was used to bend them.The wheel lip moulding shown in the picture isn't from a Hemi car as they were discarded on all the Creative modified fenders.It does show how little material was there to start with and that is why they were not put back on the Hemi fenders.
It would go long way if we had the info on build dates.Most cars before about March were done at Creative and after that they were fitted with the factory fender that was restamped to remove the material that needed to go.Those are the second (Hemi fender) tag cars.
Ok,so they weren't hammered,but from the looks of mine they weren't too worried about what it looked like either.Maybe they had a new guy do mine.  
So all of the Creative cars had all 4 of their wheel opening mouldings removed and left off,that would explain why the ones for my car are MIA.
Also is it correct to say that the Creative cars did NOT have the "Hemi"(or whatever it said) fender tag? My car did not have that extra tag,and there is no evidence of it ever having been there.BTW the car is a Challenger with an SPD of Nov. 15th.If I get a chance to get over to where the car is this weekend,I'll try to get a picture of the wheel lip,and post it(if I can figure that out). 
Thanks for all of this info,it's excellent stuff to know.
My Dec. car does not have it either.
The "Hemi Fender" tag was put on later cars - after December sometime.
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Re: Hemi fender or not? (AKA WTx)
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02/22/11 02:04 PM
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Yes the Cuda front wheel lip moldings were removed,cut to match the area that was modified and then reinstalled.All 4 of the Challenger moldings were removed and discarded.The second tag was only on later cars built after about March or April on 1970.When the new fender was ready,the tags went on the cars.No second tag on Creative modded cars.
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Re: Hemi fender or not? (AKA WTx)
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02/23/11 09:37 AM
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Hi Barry  Didn't the A66 cars have the wheel lip moldings deleted? Here is a picture of Daniel Bankers late built 70 Hemi Challenger fender tags. Anyone know where the car is now? Tav
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Re: Hemi fender or not? (AKA WTx)
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02/23/11 11:14 AM
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As far as the HEMI FENDER tags go, I have seen them on 1970 Hemi Cudas, but I have not seen any on 1970 Hemi Challengers yet. Anybody got one? 
Barry - my friends May built 70 Hemi Chall has the original untouched tags on it with the "Hemi Fender" tag. I have a pic at home.
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Re: Hemi fender or not? (AKA WTx)
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02/23/11 05:54 PM
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My question is do all challenger front fenders look like this, from the underside that is, or is this the infamous Hemi fender?
To answer the original posters question,... That's just a regular Challenger fender. They all look like that. (except for the Hemi fenders which have a Very large rolled area)
Tav
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Re: Hemi fender or not? (AKA WTx)
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02/27/11 09:15 PM
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Re: Hemi fender or not? (AKA WTx)
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