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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: MR_P_BODY] #930084
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Wow. I try to know as much as possible about the racer in the opposite lane. That allows me to sharpen up or dull my shoe polish. As far as double bulb staging, the first thing I ask in tech, is the stage to start time. I make them ask the owner. I had a quarters race for 5,000, decided on a quick increment. I.e, they double bulbed, I prestaged, and the tree started almost instantly when I final staged, and I don't fool around.

Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: Leigh] #930085
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How about all the nitrous hoopies that add the BOTTLE for top end games.


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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: pittsburghracer] #930086
02/17/11 12:48 AM
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I dont really play games at the tree, But i can remember Nick Bowman racing Super pro in his street duster at Norwalk a couple years back. He would do his burnout quick and deepstage then open the door and stare at the other guy before he prestaged. It was some funny stuff.. but he runnered-up in the gamblers race in super pro doing that.. It was amazing props to him

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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: Whompin_Wedge] #930087
02/17/11 09:07 AM
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I'm not a game player at all. I think it's cheap. But if they want to play games with me then they just ordered themselves a yellow time slip.

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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: pittsburghracer] #930088
02/17/11 09:15 AM
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How about all the nitrous hoopies that add the BOTTLE for top end games.




it is called spray'n dump, and is a very effective strategy when executed properly.

Funny listening to all you guys, anything goes on the race track, within the rules that is. I'll bet you guys stink at poker too!!

Double bulbing should never be allowed, courtesy staging should be enforced but rarely is. I've been dbl bulbed numerous times but only had my opponent backed out once, at last years Nitro Jam.

Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: Leigh] #930089
02/17/11 09:19 AM
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Wow. I try to know as much as possible about the racer in the opposite lane.


I race at a bunch of different track with a bunch of
different guys... like I'm going to know what his quirks
are... might be different if you race the same track
and the same guys... I know what my car does and what
it will run... its just up to me to get the light

Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: MR_P_BODY] #930090
02/17/11 09:33 AM
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When I had my mustang I used to race it at a "mustang vs grand national" shootout near oklahoma city. Its a heads up deal with a single round of eliminations. The buicks had a better field this year and I found myself running a buick that was almost a second faster than me. I was to scared of the sticky track to use the nitrous(stock axles 5 speed) so when we got staged I slung mine on the rev limiter and honked the horn.(both cars are not that loud). It ALMOST worked haha, I got way out on him but he took my headlights with him as he flew by at 1000ft. It did score me a nice "go die" look as he drove by me in the pits lol.


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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: Bad340fish] #930091
02/17/11 10:03 AM
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Mr sc301v & Mr T Big $$$ Bracket Racing is not only what I like but LOVE,if you like playing "GAMES" line up beside me.
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"IF YOU WANT TO BE THE MAN'YOU GOT TO BEAT THE MAN"

I also like to do a little "Grudge-Racing"

Hint-Hint hold all the numbers you want on me,Make My Day Use Some Of Them Against Me

Most of the Big $$$ (and you did not think I run any ) down here in the South is 1/8 mile. And it does Make My Day to see them # holders trying to tighten up the race at the finish line....almost forgot to tell Ya my Mopar-Powered dragster will run a tad over 150 MPH in the 1/8 get the idea

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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: MRMOPAR622] #930092
02/17/11 10:14 AM
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Hint-Hint hold all the numbers you want on me,Make My Day Use Some Of Them Against Me




Come to Bradenton or race any of the Winter Series for that matter and you might understand? Five of the last Million dollar race winners are from my home track, and they all hold #'s. I don't know how they do it? But they do and they win, every time I try that game I lose!

Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: MegaDart] #930093
02/17/11 10:35 AM
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I'm not smart enough to hold numbers . I watched Jeggie win Top Dragster at St Louis last year. He dialed 6.60 every round and womped the throttle at least once in every round. In the final he womped it twice and ran 6.600 . Luck or skill? We were sitting just past the 1/8 mile mark, you could see him looking at his opponent as he came by.

Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: MegaDart] #930094
02/17/11 10:37 AM
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i am amazed at all the people that post here implying that they can conciously control what happens... if this person is holding numbers i'll send him packing... if that person double bulbs me i'll put him on the trailer...

my guess is that when someone does something that someone doesnt like, or thinks is "unfair" and they ended up beating them, for whatever reason, they automatically think its because they played the "game" better then the other person...

you can sit there for a month and make the person wait if he double bulbs you, you can do whatever it is that makes you think you are in control of the situation, but it boils down to putting together a better package then the other person, you can be practicing voodoo in your trailer between rounds, is it going to make a difference? NO. Do games make a difference? only if you let them.

Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: plasticfantastic] #930095
02/17/11 11:33 AM
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I don't get to race often enough to learn about opponents, or get real good at judging the finish line. I do OK, but there are many guys running ten times the rounds per year that I do. So I prep with that in mind, focusing on my run to be the best ever. I do my best to treat every pass down the track the same whether it is a time trial or first round. Same procedure, no worrying about the other lane at all. That all starts at the far end, when I HAVE TO.
Some times game playing isn't intentional, like the time i had my two step set too low for my carb setup. The motor had to drop so many cylinders it created a huge back fire as the tree came down. The other guy looked over, and that was it for him.
In the end, it is focus on your own race that will win the most rounds, given you can run a very tight package. The minute your mind wanders, you are usually toast.


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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: gregsdart] #930096
02/17/11 11:43 AM
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why not play some games makes it a lot more fun. and if your going to let someone double bulb u get into your head ill do it all day to you.. some people just let a dial-in get in there head when they are catching a much slower car. im not scared of anyone ill race who ever when ever, anyone can be beat on any given day.


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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: kissmyaspen] #930097
02/17/11 11:51 AM
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why not play some games makes it a lot more fun. and if your going to let someone double bulb u get into your head ill do it all day to you.. some people just let a dial-in get in there head when they are catching a much slower car. im not scared of anyone ill race who ever when ever, anyone can be beat on any given day.






My friend with a 5.0 keeps about how he is gonna beat my dart, im gonna double bulb him (he does horrible when rushed ) and not let him know about the borrowed plate under the carb. That is, if I ever finish this thing

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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: 69B3GT] #930098
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OK I'll fess up I hold a few # myself sometimes,but make no mistake I'm not afraid to pull those # out of the delay box and use them.

If I catch you and I'm faster than you at the finish line I may womp it a time or two,just to make sure I'm safe on my dial. But never because I'm holding back any #.If you dial a 7:00 flat it matters not how many # you are holding if you run a 6:99.9 you lose.

If we could have as much fun playing games at the track as we are having know it would be fine!!! But let's all be Honest the ones of us that are real racers(no disrespect to the ones just having fun)we go there to win. And I don't know about the rest of you,but I have to win a little $$$ in order to race.The Wife says you win no $$$ you no RACE
No MONEY LEFT.
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80's might be about time to change it to "NO MONEY"

Everyone I'm only playing games & having a little fun with you all on the computer.On the Race (and I'm better on the race-track than this computer)track I will race you straight up NO GAMES Unless you really want to play games

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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: MRMOPAR622] #930099
02/17/11 01:22 PM
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ok, i thought the title of the thread was STARTING LINE GAMES. "my bad". and i didn't realize dumping it at the big end is a game. it's common sense to me. i ain't breaking out! i dial what i think my turd is gonna run, but if i'm out on my opponent, you bet i'll dump it! i've had more than one track champ chew on me for taking the stripe by more than i had to.


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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: gregsdart] #930100
02/17/11 01:47 PM
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Some times game playing isn't intentional, like the time i had my two step set too low for my carb setup. The motor had to drop so many cylinders it created a huge back fire as the tree came down. The other guy looked over, and that was it for him.



That's hilarious! Sounds like something that would happen to me. I'm still laughing, I can picture that perfectly!


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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: Craig] #930101
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I had never heard of cortius staging until about 2 years ago. What I do remember is being a young racer and having the old timers sit there and burn me down for what seemed like an eternity. my style is to light the 1st bulb and wait till the other car rolls in before staging the 2nd. Guess if I had one of those cars that took a lot of preperation I wouldn't like being double bulbed either.

Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: JACK1440] #930102
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My friend double bulbs ALL the time... last year we
were on Drag Week and I finally told him... why do
you light up both bulbs all the time before the other
guys is not even close to the lights... he said NO
I DONT... till I showed him video he never payed any
attention to it... then I asked why dont you courteous
stage... I'm not sure he knew about it till I told him...
he's working on it(and getting better but sometimes
forgets)

Re: Racers / Starting Line Games [Re: MegaDart] #930103
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Hint-Hint hold all the numbers you want on me,Make My Day Use Some Of Them Against Me




Come to Bradenton or race any of the Winter Series for that matter and you might understand? Five of the last Million dollar race winners are from my home track, and they all hold #'s. I don't know how they do it? But they do and they win, every time I try that game I lose!




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