Re: Disk Brakes for an A-100 ?
[Re: MileHighDart]
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02/09/11 01:37 AM
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kick_the_reverb
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A-100 have two different spindles, one for 10" brakes (2200 lbs front axle), another for 11" brakes (2500 lbs front axle). Scarebird has done the 2200 lbs in the past. I had the 11" brakes (2500 lbs axle). I sent him a 2500 lbs spindle to adapt his C body kit. It bolted on fine, but then the calipers hit the bolt on steering arm that attaches to the spindle (duh, I didn't send that). So - I moved the calipers to the front, and that required sway bar link mods. Anyway - I was supposed to try to see if the caliper mounting bracket would be able to be clocked enough to rear mount the calipers and clear everything, but life got in the way...so I dropped the ball. Email Scarebird, his site is not up to date.
BTW - My brakes work fine, I had to panic stop recently and they saved my behind.
I might want to experiment with MC size in the future, the calipers are really big, so they might require a bigger MC than the one I have (1 1/8" dia), but I'd rather test pressures before swapping out stuff.
If you have the 11" brakes, and no sway bar, than what he has right now can fit (front mount). If you have 10" brakes, he has a kit.
Also ECI has a kit for 10", and possibly other B body kits can be adapted from different vendors, but not 100% sure. AAJ Brakes also has a kit, and in the A-100 Yahoo group, Bobby V or Scottie have brackets.
So - different options, feel free to PM for more details.
Ran
"Hey mister, something's wrong with your car, it idles roughly" - number one comment I got in Israel when daily driving a 70 Barracuda with a lopey cam.
Currently working on - 1966 Dodge A100 van 318/auto Finally - disc brakes on the front. In the plans - rear disc brakes, B&M 250 blower
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Re: Disk Brakes for an A-100 ?
[Re: kick_the_reverb]
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02/09/11 11:55 AM
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I might want to experiment with MC size in the future, the calipers are really big, so they might require a bigger MC than the one I have (1 1/8" dia), but I'd rather test pressures before swapping out stuff. Ran
Good Luck with that! Honestly. I needed a new MC and the ones from NAPA say that they will fit but don't! If you want to stuff a bigger MC in there, be prepared for alot of cutting and grinding to make it fit. Something I don't want and won't do.
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Re: Disk Brakes for an A-100 ?
[Re: stubbs300 ]
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02/09/11 04:21 PM
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Do you also have an A-100? In that case, yeah, it's a pain to put in a bigger MC. We did a lot of grinding to clear room for the 1 1/8" aluminum MC, it's a lot longer compared to the single jug type. It did bolt on no problem with the adapter (AndyF type), but there's not a lot of room around it like in most passenger cars. Also, 1 1/4" MCs will not bolt on, diff bolt pattern.
"Hey mister, something's wrong with your car, it idles roughly" - number one comment I got in Israel when daily driving a 70 Barracuda with a lopey cam.
Currently working on - 1966 Dodge A100 van 318/auto Finally - disc brakes on the front. In the plans - rear disc brakes, B&M 250 blower
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Re: Disk Brakes for an A-100 ?
[Re: kick_the_reverb]
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02/09/11 07:55 PM
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Do you also have an A-100? In that case, yeah, it's a pain to put in a bigger MC. We did a lot of grinding to clear room for the 1 1/8" aluminum MC, it's a lot longer compared to the single jug type. It did bolt on no problem with the adapter (AndyF type), but there's not a lot of room around it like in most passenger cars. Also, 1 1/4" MCs will not bolt on, diff bolt pattern.
Yea, a 69 van with a dual resv. You aren't kiddin about not alot of room, seems like 3 of the ones I got from NAPA that said gaurenteed to fit wouldn't come close with out cutting and grinding. I kept the old for a rebuild if I ever have problems again.
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Re: Disk Brakes for an A-100 ?
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02/09/11 08:06 PM
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Do you also have an A-100? In that case, yeah, it's a pain to put in a bigger MC. We did a lot of grinding to clear room for the 1 1/8" aluminum MC, it's a lot longer compared to the single jug type. It did bolt on no problem with the adapter (AndyF type), but there's not a lot of room around it like in most passenger cars. Also, 1 1/4" MCs will not bolt on, diff bolt pattern.
Ran, after reading this, I have a thought for you. Since your 1 1/8" is already "fitted" to the van, there may be a rebuilder that could bore that one to 1 1/4" and stuff the rebuild guts for that size into the casting. Unless the casting is real thin somewhere (which would be a separate concern), another 1/16" in each direction should be fine!
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Re: Disk Brakes for an A-100 ?
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02/10/11 03:51 PM
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Thanks John, that is a good idea. It just requires knowing a rebuilder that is trust worthy The 1 1/4" that I thought might work is a 98 Dodge Ram 3500 IIRC. Only concern is that it's for PB, and the hole for the pushrod might be too shallow. That bolt pattern is slightly different, but the bolt holes can be massaged. As said, I will want to test pressures at all wheels and MC before deciding to switch. Thanks, Ran
"Hey mister, something's wrong with your car, it idles roughly" - number one comment I got in Israel when daily driving a 70 Barracuda with a lopey cam.
Currently working on - 1966 Dodge A100 van 318/auto Finally - disc brakes on the front. In the plans - rear disc brakes, B&M 250 blower
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Re: Disk Brakes for an A-100 ?
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02/10/11 05:41 PM
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Not to hi-jack, but a couple questions.
What all comes in the scarebird kit for 62-72 b-body for that low of cash?
Will this conversion work with manual brakes?
Scott
1969 Super Bee, 383/4 speed
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Re: Disk Brakes for an A-100 ?
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02/11/11 04:41 PM
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Typically Scarebird kits come with the brackets to mount the calipers, and any special sleeves/adapters. The rest is self sourced through parts shops. To get back on topic, here's my Scarebird prototype brakes (not 100% fully developed). Trial fit rear caliper mount, won't work: Front mount, note our hose routing is not good, needs to be fixed, has nothing to do with Scarebird, though. Master Cylinder area:
"Hey mister, something's wrong with your car, it idles roughly" - number one comment I got in Israel when daily driving a 70 Barracuda with a lopey cam.
Currently working on - 1966 Dodge A100 van 318/auto Finally - disc brakes on the front. In the plans - rear disc brakes, B&M 250 blower
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