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I need to remove glass from a 73 Roadrunner - I bought the tool withe the 90 degree blade and cable/handle ----- any tips before we start ?

Re: Windshield removal ........... [Re: RebelDart] #915708
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Yeah - for fifty bucks or so, have it done by a pro ...........

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Yeah - for fifty bucks or so, have it done by a pro ...........




Or buy this tool for 35 bucks and be sure not to damage your glass. The tool you bought is very difficult to use without damaging the glass. This tool is way,way better. Good luck with it, your gonna need it.
You can buy just the braided brass wire for less at any auto parts store and it is NOT piano or gartar string.

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If you plan on putting in new rubber, no tools are needed. Just a utility knife to cut the rubber on the outside of the window. Then remove the window and what is left of the inside rubber gasket.

Re: Windshield removal ........... [Re: rapom] #915711
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If you plan on putting in new rubber, no tools are needed. Just a utility knife to cut the rubber on the outside of the window. Then remove the window and what is left of the inside rubber gasket.



'73 's are factory installed with butyl tape, they do NOT have a rubber gasket. The above mentioned brass wire is great stuff, I usually get 3 or 4 removals from one roll. Take your time, it isn't that bad. Just my

Re: Windshield removal ........... [Re: 4BBodies] #915712
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It is tough. Since they are basiclly glued in (butyl), so going to a pro maybe the way to go. Although you can get a new one installed for aprox $250.00 (sometimes alot less), so there is a savings to get it out yourself. Alot of them ending up cracking when you try to remove (even by pros), so good luck.

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It is tough. Since they are basiclly glued in (butyl), so going to a pro maybe the way to go. Although you can get a new one installed for aprox $250.00 (sometimes alot less), so there is a savings to get it out yourself. Alot of them ending up cracking when you try to remove (even by pros), so good luck.





Have you done it??
If not how can you give advise?

The brass wire I have shown above is a very easy way to get them out without any risk of cracking them. I have cut out 5 of them so far by myself and have not even come close to breaking any glass. Once you cut 360 degrees around the windshield, it can be lifted out very easy, at least on E bodys.


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Thanks ............... you say the kit is NOT guitar string, but can you use guitar string and 2) how do you get it started ?

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I need to remove glass from a 73 Roadrunner - I bought the tool withe the 90 degree blade and cable/handle ----- any tips before we start ?




That tool you have is perfect IF the windshield is already cracked and needs to be replaced..If you want to reuse the glass used the wire method and make sure the edges are heated well enough to glide the wire thru with no hang ups...good luck... The 90* tool is fine but if you lean it to one side or the other just even a little you will hear a sound that you dont want to and your neighbors will not like the language...


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Re: Windshield removal ........... [Re: 72N96RR] #915716
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In my experience as a full time bodyman, the glass I broke while removing usually did so because I rushed it.........I'd be pushing the glass out before it was cut all the way, and CRACK........so GO SLOW! The brass wire is the cats ass, I wish they had it 20 years ago........anyway, start wherever you can push a sharp putty knife or equivalent through, so you can snake the brass wire through. Cut about a 3' piece of wire, wrap each end with some sort of handle (I have used anything from wheel weights to screwdrivers) then saw back and forth. Try to angle away from the edge of the glass whenever possible. It isn't rocket science, but did I mention to TAKE YOUR TIME??!! LOL!

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As others have mentioned, just take your time with the brass wire.

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Thanks all - still haven't heard a response regarding guitar string or equivalent ?

Re: Windshield removal ........... [Re: AverageJoe] #915719
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Why not use the right wire and leave the guitar wires to the guitarists?
You could use it as well as piano wire but why would you? I am guessing you have some lying around. Try it, but the big thing as stated is take your time, windshields break easy. I have broken a few and learned it is much easier to be patient, as mentioned. Good luck.

Re: Windshield removal ........... [Re: bboogieart] #915720
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Why not use the right wire and leave the guitar wires to the guitarists?
You could use it as well as piano wire but why would you? I am guessing you have some lying around. Try it, but the big thing as stated is take your time, windshields break easy. I have broken a few and learned it is much easier to be patient, as mentioned. Good luck.






The key here is "braided brass wire" Brass won't hurt glass, braided makes it cut great and the one's I did cut just fine cold. Nothing needs to be "heated"

It seems if the glue was heated then it would be sticky and want to stay stuck after you cut it?

I have never used piano or gitair strings but have heard guys on here say they had a hard time using instrument string. And I'm thinking it is mostly steel wire? which won't bend freely around corners when your sawing. And I doubt that it is braided. And I bet it is thicker too.

So my advise to you is to use the wire from a auto parts store and be sure to get the job done correctly.
The wire has to bend around a very tight radius(the thickness of the glass) at 180 degree bends multiable times while your sawing, so the right wire is important.

PS the large T handle tool in the picture above is what is used to push the wire through the glue to get started. It's very handy.

Once all the trim is off both sides, I can cut it out in 2 or 3 minutes by myself, I have long arms.


Re: Windshield removal ........... [Re: Challenger 1] #915721
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It is easy to do.

The braided wire is better but I have used guitar strings, welding wire and hardware store steel wire. I have wrapped them around screwdrivers and wrenchs as handles but that kit above is the best and can be had for about $15 in many places.

They all work but the braided wire is best. As Challenger1 said it is strong and FLEXIBLE.

Here are some more tips.

I have found if you take a razor knife and trim as much of the sealant away from the glass & window channel as possible it is easier. The more sealant you have to cut through the harder it is to cut.

Cold glass breaks faster than hot glass. Do it inside or on a warm day if possible.

Never push on the glass to try to break it loose. If it seems to be sticking cut it again.

If you put it in crooked cut it out and start again. DO NOT THINK IT CAN JUST POP OUT AND RESEAT IT.

No wire cuts Urethane glue easily enough.

Use butyl or rubber gaskets on old school glass like ours. Urethane breaks down in sunlight. That is why all modern glass has black edges.

If you can find it use glass & Pinchweld primer for Butyl tape. It used to be common but not so much anymore.

Take your time.







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