Synthetic oil use at initial break in ?? for or against
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We use Amsoil synthetic lubricants and Engine Oil in all the Vehicles We own,and will be firing up rebuilt 440 in our '67 GTX in the near future- question is :should We use synthetic initially,or break in with petroleum base oil,then switch to synthetics later? I know many European Cars and some US made Cars come from the Factory with synthetics in Them,with stickers and info in owners manuals encouraging continued use of synthetics,but did They use synthetics at initial start up ?? pros and cons,please.. \ Eric @ Rickety Enterprises...
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Re: Synthetic oil use at initial break in ?? for or against
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go with a conventional oil with a high zinc content for break-in and you can switch to Synthetic as per the previous response.
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Re: Synthetic oil use at initial break in ?? for or against
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I agree. I have read and read and asked and asked on this very question, and have always been told to go with petroleum based at break in so that the rings seat properly.And as mentioned, if it isn't a roller cam, high zinc content is protective of the camshaft.
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Re: Synthetic oil use at initial break in ?? for or against
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I agree. I have read and read and asked and asked on this very question, and have always been told to go with petroleum based at break in so that the rings seat properly.And as mentioned, if it isn't a roller cam, high zinc content is protective of the camshaft.
I have seen this question asked many times over the years. And i have discovered what seems to be the best explanation on the matter at the recent PRI show in Orlando. Actually a non detergent oil is best for break in with a high zinc additive, or a specialized break in oil is best, and the explanation is that additives, zinc, and detergents are all "attracted" to the base metals. Only the zinc additives? are beneficial at this early stage of break in. If the other longer use detergents get to the base metal first, the zinc's etc have nowhere to attach, and provide little benefit at this crucial time. And no synthetics. Makes sense to me, read for yourself thru Rousch oil.
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Re: Synthetic oil use at initial break in ?? for or against
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I used Mobile 1 full synthetic on my motor with a Lucas oil zinc additive.. Have done this with the past 6 motors.. I have not had one issue doing this...
To each his own I guess but until it does hurt me I will keep using this method.
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Re: Synthetic oil use at initial break in ?? for or against
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i need to clairify my previous post i use a simple oil 10 w 30 with the lucus engine breakin additive, , after breakin is done then switch to sythetic 5 w 30 mobil we do not have any poblems , but we also need to say that only flat tappets neeed this zinc to survive roller dont need ,,nor warrent such additive! nor does hyd lifted cams
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Re: Synthetic oil use at initial break in ?? for or against
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Best flat-tappet break-in? My opinion, dont use synthetic's, dont use additives. Get some Brad Penn 30wt break-in oil.
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