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COMP CAMS CAM QUEST #891724
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How accurate is it when it tells ya your HP/TQ???

Re: COMP CAMS CAM QUEST [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #891725
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Cant really say, I plugged my info into it, and had their cam plugged in, and it said 555 hp, and 515lb ft tq.

It sure didnt feel that hot, and Ill know more after my new heads go on.

Id say they are puffed up, and you can have your engine on one guys dyno, get a number and take it to another dyno, and get a totally different number.

Kasey

Re: COMP CAMS CAM QUEST [Re: Moparnut426] #891726
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Like any computer generated estimate, it is based on highly optimized components that are dialed in perfectly. It's more like giving you the potential HP the cam can support rather than the actual HP you will make.
Allan G.


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Most one's I've run on it estimate about 15% high vs. real world

It's best use to me is all the Cat #'s for springs/lock/retainers, etc I want for the cam I'm going to run.


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Re: COMP CAMS CAM QUEST [Re: Streetwize] #891728
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My small block combo runs in the high 6s to low 700s on cam quest, depends on what cam I plug in, in reality we probably make 100 hp less from the best I can tell cause my factory LA block has not self destructed yet

Re: COMP CAMS CAM QUEST [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #891729
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Here is an article from the tech archives where I tested that SW program. I did the whole exercise with Comp where I run the software and then they sent me the cam and we put the engine on the dyno. It was basically an exact match with what the program predicted.

Only issue I have with that program is that it only selects shelf cams. I'd like it a lot more if it allowed the user to build a custom cam using the Comp lobes. But I suppose that might be too complex of a program to write.

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techa...ions/index.html

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Re: COMP CAMS CAM QUEST [Re: AndyF] #891730
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You can edit the cams that are in it.

In the file
C:\CamQuest6\Manuals & Videos\Menus\CompCamsData6.txt

is all the cam data. Here is one example for the purple plus 280 hydraulic, except I changed the lift to .401 just to make sure the simulation changed.

Chrysler 383-440 C.I. 8 CYL. 1959-1980 Hydraulic-2501 stall with 9.5:1 comp. strong midrange with early muscle car sound. Yes Yes Yes Yes Nostalgia Plus Hydraulic Flat Tappet Camshafts Hydraulic Lifter Hyd. Hyd. 2000 to 6000 21-670-4(Single Bolt) PP280H 280 287 233 240 0.401 0.401 110 106.0 K21-670-4 CL21-670-4 [7] 822-16 [61]/867-16 [37] 2104/3104 1321-16 [23] 911-16/924-16 [2] 748-16/741-16 627-16 [27] 504-16

You can see the cam #s in bold, just edit them, save the file, then open (or close and re-open) cam quest, select that cam, and viola, the HP and torque #s will change based on whatever cam #s you entered.

Re: COMP CAMS CAM QUEST [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #891731
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i installed the free and when i put in the blower type itshuts down/error. just an fyi for others loading it.

Re: COMP CAMS CAM QUEST [Re: blownzoom440] #891732
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Yea you can just put your own gind in and not edit any in the files...



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Re: COMP CAMS CAM QUEST [Re: moparniac] #891733
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Yea you can just put your own gind in and not edit any in the files...




hey Sledgie, how did you change it,do you have the free download or the upgrade?

Re: COMP CAMS CAM QUEST [Re: emarine01] #891734
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This says 480hp @5500 and 517tq @4000 . Seems awful generous to me

Just a 416 stroker, 274S cam, edelbrocks full ported all matched intake/ex, M1 single plane, 750 silver claw, TTI 1 5/8" stepped. I'm hoping for 1hp/cubic inch

Maybe I should have chosen Single Plane Intake Standard flow instead of Single Plane Intake High Flow??

Should I have choose Small Tube Headers W/O Cat instead of Large Headers W/O Cat??

If I do both those changes I get 424.5hp @ 5000 and 481tq @4000




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free download! once you download the program do a hard drive search for camquest then follow the folders below.

C:\CamQuest6\Manuals & Videos\Menus\CompCamsData6.txt

once you open it up its a list of files in the (CompCamsData6.txt) and just find your engine app(scrolling down)! you can just type over the existing data entry or just hit the enter key at the beginning of a file and open up a blank space then copy and paste the file above it and edit that as need to your own cam specs by scrolling side to side! of course you can data entry in what you want with the wording also but watch out for knocking data over into the next table or it will mess the files up!


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Re: COMP CAMS CAM QUEST [Re: moparniac] #891736
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I've been playing with this camquest program and is it really posible to gain 100 hp going from a 232 @ 50 hyd to a 264 @ 50 solid roller and changing from a 750 to 1000 cfm carb? If so I better start looking for a couple of grand laying around.

George..

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Quote:

Here is an article from the tech archives where I tested that SW program. I did the whole exercise with Comp where I run the software and then they sent me the cam and we put the engine on the dyno. It was basically an exact match with what the program predicted.

Only issue I have with that program is that it only selects shelf cams. I'd like it a lot more if it allowed the user to build a custom cam using the Comp lobes. But I suppose that might be too complex of a program to write.



http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techa...ions/index.html





I agree with Andy on the software.I also run a lot of sims with the very expensive "pro" software.Usually a few percent error from the dyno.Engine sim programs are a nice tool but only as good as the numbers you put in.Newest software is very accurate.


Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike
Re: COMP CAMS CAM QUEST [Re: mike s] #891738
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I found it to be accurate to 7 HP when inputting as much exact info as possible. For example, using the .100"-.600" flow numbers from Jeff instead of a generic figure. I also picked the conservative choices where applicable. I also played around with lift and duration specs. I ended up spec'ing my own cam.

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...Engine sim programs are a nice tool but only as good as the numbers you put in.Newest software is very accurate...




I figured it revolved around inputs. So that's why I asked:

For a M1 single plane small block intake, would you choose max flow, high flow, or standard flow?

I now think TTI 5/8 stepped headers would be considered small tube headers as opposed to large tube headers, correct?

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Quote:

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...Engine sim programs are a nice tool but only as good as the numbers you put in.Newest software is very accurate...




I figured it revolved around inputs. So that's why I asked:

For a M1 single plane small block intake, would you choose max flow, high flow, or standard flow?

I now think TTI 5/8 stepped headers would be considered small tube headers as opposed to large tube headers, correct?




I'd enter std. intake first, then high flow. I can't image there being a huge difference.

I'd enter small tube for the headers. I used small tube with my 1 3/4" TTI's.

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its just a funsy program to me! when you manipulte the program and cam lift just put in your actual cam lift (factoring in your rocker ratio)cause the program is just 1.5 stuff! like I said though just enter down a blank space and put in your own cams to keep all the "house" grinds in there! If soemone really cares how accurate is maybe they can post up a dyno sheet and actually cam card/compression etc and see if it matches your dyno sheet for fun ... post it up and ill throw it in there! its winter benchracing time anyways


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Re: COMP CAMS CAM QUEST [Re: moparniac] #891742
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this is the best program money can buy :

take car to track - put front wheels on starting line - mash gas pedal to floor - hold down untill the finish line 1320' away - get time slip -

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I bought a copy a few years ago and was not very happy with it. It worked fine until I tryed it for my 528 hemi. I input all the correct parameters and it won't calculate the horsepower/torque numbers at all.Dave

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