...speaking of dynos, going Thursday FULL RESULTS
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12/28/10 03:24 AM
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I'm headed over to Bob Lambeck's place on Thursday to dyno-tune the 496 after pulling it post Silver State Classic oil-starvation due to an incorrectly set adjustable bypass. I replaced all the bearings after I found some mild signs of starvation. I also found I had insufficient chamfer clearance and most of the bearingsd had a tiny ring of copper on the outside from rubbing the fat radius. New narrow bearings with hand-clearanced edges solved that problem.
Last time I had it dyno'd was when I built it in a mad rush to make it to MATS after killing the crank at March Meet. There was no time to tune, just a break in with a bad carb, then one pull with the replacement carb. We knew it was pig rich, but had to go with it for the sake of time. After pulling 8 jet sizes out it picked up over 3 tenths.
What do you think it will make now? I won't spoil your guesses with the old numbers unless requested.
440 +.040, stroked to 496 with a 440source 4.15 kit 10.44:1 compression, 91 octane pump gas Holley 1000HP MP M1 single plane intake .597/.607 257°/259° @.050 sold flat tappet Eddie RPM, unported, port machining transitions smoothed/gasket matched 2 1/8"/3.5" TTI headers MP distributor, 35° total
ETA: Engine dyno, not chassis
11.33 @ 118.46 on motor 10.75 @ 125.35 w/ a little spray Now, high Speed Open Road Racing - Silver State Classic Challenge, Nevada Open Road Challenge, Big Bend Open Road Race Rocky Mountain Race Week 2020, 2022 2.0, Sick Week 2023
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Re: ...speaking of dynos... going on Thursday
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12/28/10 10:02 AM
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570...562... WOW! I will be pretty impressed if that motor makes close to 700 hp at the crank!!! I will guess 450 rwhp
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Re: ...speaking of dynos... going on Thursday
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12/28/10 11:57 AM
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should have specified "engine dyno"
11.33 @ 118.46 on motor 10.75 @ 125.35 w/ a little spray Now, high Speed Open Road Racing - Silver State Classic Challenge, Nevada Open Road Challenge, Big Bend Open Road Race Rocky Mountain Race Week 2020, 2022 2.0, Sick Week 2023
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Re: ...speaking of dynos... going on Thursday
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12/30/10 09:41 AM
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'tis still the wee morning hours over here, and I'm loading the engine up to go. Any last guesses?
11.33 @ 118.46 on motor 10.75 @ 125.35 w/ a little spray Now, high Speed Open Road Racing - Silver State Classic Challenge, Nevada Open Road Challenge, Big Bend Open Road Race Rocky Mountain Race Week 2020, 2022 2.0, Sick Week 2023
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Re: ...speaking of dynos... going on Thursday
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12/31/10 01:15 AM
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609.1 @ 5500 647.9 @ 4400
I'll post the average numbers in a few minutes, but it is a big, fat, flat power curve.
11.33 @ 118.46 on motor 10.75 @ 125.35 w/ a little spray Now, high Speed Open Road Racing - Silver State Classic Challenge, Nevada Open Road Challenge, Big Bend Open Road Race Rocky Mountain Race Week 2020, 2022 2.0, Sick Week 2023
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Re: ...speaking of dynos... going on Thursday
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12/31/10 03:17 AM
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Can I ask ball park the cost of running your engine on Lambecks dyno?? I assume 3 pulls.
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Re: ...speaking of dynos... going on Thursday
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12/31/10 12:17 PM
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Cost: $550 for 9 hours and 21 pulls.
Correction: Final was 609.1 @ 5700 and 647.7 @ 4500 over 600 HP from 5200 - 5700 over 600 ft.lb. from 3700 - 5200
First run was 575/604, and every run we would change 1 thing.
On 91 octane, the engine made more power each time we took timing away. It runs best at 30° total, not the 36 I was previously running.
The carb ended up wanting 7 more sizes on the primary and one less on the secondary for a final of 84/88.
Swapping the HS air bleeds from 25 to 29 gave me about 5 on the top and got rid of a rich condition past 5000.
Adding a 1" 4 hole over a 1 inch open was worth 13 HP and 9 ft.lb. over no spacers at all.
My 14x3 paper air filter cost me 10HP over no cleaner at all, a 14x3 4 ply K&N only cost me 2HP.
There is a slight surge over 5500 that couldn't be tuned out since it is a result of not enough exhaust duration to compensate for my tiny ports. Only fixed by porting or a new cam.
Further pulls revealed the engine was still running well past 6600, but power was down to 552 out there.
I'll post copied of the dyno sheets in a little while.
11.33 @ 118.46 on motor 10.75 @ 125.35 w/ a little spray Now, high Speed Open Road Racing - Silver State Classic Challenge, Nevada Open Road Challenge, Big Bend Open Road Race Rocky Mountain Race Week 2020, 2022 2.0, Sick Week 2023
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Re: ...speaking of dynos... going on Thursday
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12/31/10 12:27 PM
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Nice!!! Saw it late but I was gonna guess 600/600....on paper it looked very close to my old 508 Stage V/Hyd roller combo that I figued to be in the ~620 range. Guys looking for a 'default' 500" 600/600 combo need look no further File it inthe tech archives!!
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Re: ...speaking of dynos... going on Thursday
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Quote:
609.1 @ 5500 647.9 @ 4400
1.22HP per cube..
Are you happy?
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