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Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: poppaj] #883897
01/05/11 01:34 AM
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That would make more sense, wouldn't it? Gosh, it was 30 years ago that I discussed that car with Al. They had a 1600 mile Cuda that was a modestly competitive DA car, and they were at the point that if they really wanted to run with the big dogs, they would have to cut up a car they already knew was becoming rare and valuable. Their mph was as good as anyone's, but the stock suspension was a liability, so they switched to SS/AA, and now Al runs A-stick

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: bill_greenwood] #883898
01/05/11 07:15 AM
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Okey Guy's I saw this topic now, sorry for being slow

What can I help you with, picture of the engine will come soon.
Any hidden lead is impossible to find, I have searched for years without finding it.
I have some older articles made bu Mr. Rossi and about his car and engine program.

I know he was on the thinn line and sometimes over the line of being SS legal.
I'm in fact anal about rules as a local tech guy, so I stay on the right side of the rules, quite a bit in fact, no one should be able to say I'm cheating

My best with this moderat home built 440 sixpack is 10.21 and 131mph with a 1.39 sixty feet.

The hard part is to get a good sixty feet in this car, I have worked real hard with that

So everything is exactly as it was in 1979 except for the engine and transmisson.

On the great "Facebook" I'm friends with 2 past owners of the car, my old friend Joran Persaker and the loveley Sylvia Hauser.

I hope I can help answering any questions

Thanks

Video from this summer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR1Y6SzgDNs Challenger


1970 Super Stock Challenger ex. Paul Rossi
1968 Dodge Dart GT 340
1968 Dodge Charger /6 3 speed manual
1966 Chrysler 300 Loaded
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 440

1968 Mini Cooper
Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: MrSixpack] #883899
01/09/11 07:17 PM
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Nice Vid. You might say things are "looking up"


Yeah, it's got a smallblock.
Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: 340B5] #883900
01/09/11 10:48 PM
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Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: mloboda] #883901
01/10/11 04:13 PM
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I have had some questions about why I'm so slow.
The reason why, is my old dream to get it as close to the way Rossi had it.
So the chassie is 100% as it was, the engine is as close I could get without stretching the rules.
Engine is a 1972 440 with .055 bore, pistons is from Probe, rods is std. Eagle H-beam, crank is a .010-.010 1971 forged crank, rings is childes&alberts that I prepped for real LOW tension.
Camshaft is a Isky shelf cam, rockers are from Harland Sharp 1.6, beltdrive from Jesel.

Well you get the point

My new engine is no joke, this is an all out race engine, no funds saved, is just all out bad

Hope that will get me in the mid to high 9 sec. runs.

Take care


1970 Super Stock Challenger ex. Paul Rossi
1968 Dodge Dart GT 340
1968 Dodge Charger /6 3 speed manual
1966 Chrysler 300 Loaded
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 440

1968 Mini Cooper
Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: MrSixpack] #883902
01/10/11 04:38 PM
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Took this one at the 1979 SuperNationals at the Ontario Motorspeedway

6409016-img031.jpg (832 downloads)

Tony

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71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield)
71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas)
71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)
Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: 70AARcuda] #883903
01/10/11 05:22 PM
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Quote:

Took this one at the 1979 SuperNationals at the Ontario Motorspeedway



Wow... nice.
Can I get this picture in high resolution from you?
I would like to use it on my homepage if it's okay with you?

Tanks


1970 Super Stock Challenger ex. Paul Rossi
1968 Dodge Dart GT 340
1968 Dodge Charger /6 3 speed manual
1966 Chrysler 300 Loaded
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 440

1968 Mini Cooper
Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: MrSixpack] #883904
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wow..that was shot with a 35mm camera back then and scanned...i can see if i have any others.

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Tony

70 AARCuda Vitamin C
71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield)
71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas)
71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)
Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: 70AARcuda] #883905
01/10/11 05:37 PM
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Quote:

wow..that was shot with a 35mm camera back then and scanned...i can see if i have any others.




That would be awesome


1970 Super Stock Challenger ex. Paul Rossi
1968 Dodge Dart GT 340
1968 Dodge Charger /6 3 speed manual
1966 Chrysler 300 Loaded
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 440

1968 Mini Cooper
Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: MrSixpack] #883906
01/10/11 10:37 PM
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Quote:

I have had some questions about why I'm so slow.
The reason why, is my old dream to get it as close to the way Rossi had it.
So the chassie is 100% as it was, the engine is as close I could get without stretching the rules.
Engine is a 1972 440 with .055 bore, pistons is from Probe, rods is std. Eagle H-beam, crank is a .010-.010 1971 forged crank, rings is childes&alberts that I prepped for real LOW tension.
Camshaft is a Isky shelf cam, rockers are from Harland Sharp 1.6, beltdrive from Jesel.

Well you get the point

My new engine is no joke, this is an all out race engine, no funds saved, is just all out bad

Hope that will get me in the mid to high 9 sec. runs.

Take care


Tell us about the heads, Which ones and what kind of work done on them

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: 6PACMAC] #883907
01/11/11 05:08 AM
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Sorry, missed the heads.

They are 906 with ferrera 2.08-1.74, compcams 999 springs.
Ported but stock size runners, c chambers are 79.5 cc
Nothing fancy but they flow good, 306 cfm at .700 lift.
I don't have the flowpapers right now.

Take care


1970 Super Stock Challenger ex. Paul Rossi
1968 Dodge Dart GT 340
1968 Dodge Charger /6 3 speed manual
1966 Chrysler 300 Loaded
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 440

1968 Mini Cooper
Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: MrSixpack] #883908
01/11/11 05:44 AM
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I remember when Sylvia Hauser was interviewed on TV and she took the TV reporter for a wheels up blast down the pod.
Great car
Mick


69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200#
best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft
best 60ft 1.36
Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: MrSixpack] #883909
01/11/11 09:42 AM
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Quote:

Sorry, missed the heads.

They are 906 with ferrera 2.08-1.74, compcams 999 springs.
Ported but stock size runners, c chambers are 79.5 cc
Nothing fancy but they flow good, 306 cfm at .700 lift.
I don't have the flowpapers right now.

Take care


Are the intake port floors epoxied to then raise the port roof as much as possible? Just curious

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: 6PACMAC] #883910
01/11/11 01:52 PM
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Quote:

Quote:

Sorry, missed the heads.

They are 906 with ferrera 2.08-1.74, compcams 999 springs.
Ported but stock size runners, c chambers are 79.5 cc
Nothing fancy but they flow good, 306 cfm at .700 lift.
I don't have the flowpapers right now.

Take care


Are the intake port floors epoxied to then raise the port roof as much as possible? Just curious




and where they done by the quiet man who wont speak at all if he would have a choise?

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: 6PACMAC] #883911
01/11/11 02:20 PM
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6PACMAC yes a little epoxie on the floor, they are not maxed out, remeber I use the weiand intake.
The intake is just matched to the heads not welded or epoxie in the low part of the runners.

Hmmm.... quiet man that don't speak, one guy from Skelleftea and one guy from Norrkoping is the only one's that have touched the heads beside's me

Take care


1970 Super Stock Challenger ex. Paul Rossi
1968 Dodge Dart GT 340
1968 Dodge Charger /6 3 speed manual
1966 Chrysler 300 Loaded
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 440

1968 Mini Cooper
Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: Cab_Burge] #883912
01/12/11 09:51 PM
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So Cab how many people in the 1979 Supernationals pic can you name?


Real Men shift for themselves
Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: 1DGEMAN] #883913
01/13/11 01:25 AM
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where the mech carbs an advantage over the vacuem (sp) carbs


1.39 9.85 - 137 mph
Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: Ari440] #883914
01/13/11 07:50 AM
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Quote:

where the mech carbs an advantage over the vacuem (sp) carbs




I can't really say, but it's only legal to use the original vacuum carbs.
I don't think the mechanical carbs are better to a well dialed in vacuum system.

Just my


1970 Super Stock Challenger ex. Paul Rossi
1968 Dodge Dart GT 340
1968 Dodge Charger /6 3 speed manual
1966 Chrysler 300 Loaded
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 440

1968 Mini Cooper
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