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Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally?
[Re: CHAPPER]
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12/19/10 06:57 PM
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Other photos of it at http://www.challengertaregistry.com/race_photos.html it is also the Sylvia Hauser car at that link.
The owner is a Moparts member.
Yes,,,accross the water I believe..
you are perfectly right unless something has happend in the last 4-5months 
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Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally?
[Re: BradH]
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12/19/10 07:53 PM
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I do have a little insight through several friends and parts suppliers to Pauls program at that time, Paul was not against pushing the rules to the fullest extent allowed  Start with a unbored 400 block, bore it to 4.375 or 4.380, add a 3.763 stroke crankshaft and legal rods, two ring piston with back cut rings(Ultra lightweight psitons and pins  ) a big, stout solid roller cam, a six pak and a lot of hard work and tesing and it will amaze you what that combination will do  I remember talking to Paul at Orange county racetrack one Wednesday night at a TNT, he made this comment to me about torque converters (I had ask him what he thought of the B&M O69J nine inch converters, he was in the middle of doing in car testing on the new T/A brand O69J just coming out at that time) His comment was that you had to try a bunch of different converters of the same brand and size to get one good one  Once you had that good one you where truly blessed. The differnces between a good one and a so so one was less than .030 and .4 (tenths) MPH   Paul had two other customers cars, 1970 and maybe 1971 Cuda's that where running the same combination(440 six pak) so he did get a lot of testing done with three cars with basically unlimited budjets(SP?) His car was always the fastets of the three The Challengers with the T/A fibreglas hoods had a distinct advantage over the Cuda's with the steel shaker hoods, even back then Another thing ou need to know is that Paul had been a Commercial airline pilot as well as being a drag racer in SS/A or SS/AA in a factory backed 1968 Hemi Dart He quit flying once Chrysler offered him a full time ride driving Butch Leals SS 1973 or 1974 360 powered Cuda. He went from there to his own deal on the Challenger, so he always had good support(factory) and was expected to get good results 
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally?
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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12/19/10 08:16 PM
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Other photos of it at http://www.challengertaregistry.com/race_photos.html it is also the Sylvia Hauser car at that link.
The owner is a Moparts member.
I think he's called MrSixPak, from Sweden IIRC
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Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally?
[Re: BradH]
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12/19/10 08:51 PM
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I seen him in Pomona a few years in a row and talked to him in the pits. If memory serves me correctly, Paul was running high 10.40's at the time with an R286 and a 1/2 inch lobe. Sounded really good.
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Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally?
[Re: dwayne welder]
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12/19/10 09:45 PM
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Late 1970's I think he went 10.27 at around 127 mph. alfully fast at the time! How he did that i wonder! A friend of mine ran a ss/fa car to with some help from chrysler, ran a best of maybe some 10.90, at the time.
IIRC, Dave Boertman was dipping into the high 10s w/ his '71 383 SS Challenger, so Rossi going that much faster w/ the 440-6 sounds reasonable.
I noticed someone else above mentioned seeing Rossi going 10.4s, so those are in the same ballpark.
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Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally?
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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12/19/10 10:47 PM
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I do have a little insight through several friends and parts suppliers to Pauls program at that time, Paul was not against pushing the rules to the fullest extent allowed Start with a unbored 400 block, bore it to 4.375 or 4.380, add a 3.763 stroke crankshaft and legal rods, two ring piston with back cut rings(Ultra lightweight psitons and pins ) a big, stout solid roller cam, a six pak and a lot of hard work and tesing and it will amaze you what that combination will do I remember talking to Paul at Orange county racetrack one Wednesday night at a TNT, he made this comment to me about torque converters (I had ask him what he thought of the B&M O69J nine inch converters, he was in the middle of doing in car testing on the new T/A brand O69J just coming out at that time) His comment was that you had to try a bunch of different converters of the same brand and size to get one good one Once you had that good one you where truly blessed. The differnces between a good one and a so so one was less than .030 and .4 (tenths) MPH Paul had two other customers cars, 1970 and maybe 1971 Cuda's that where running the same combination(440 six pak) so he did get a lot of testing done with three cars with basically unlimited budjets(SP?) His car was always the fastets of the three The Challengers with the T/A fibreglas hoods had a distinct advantage over the Cuda's with the steel shaker hoods, even back then Another thing ou need to know is that Paul had been a Commercial airline pilot as well as being a drag racer in SS/A or SS/AA in a factory backed 1968 Hemi Dart He quit flying once Chrysler offered him a full time ride driving Butch Leals SS 1973 or 1974 360 powered Cuda. He went from there to his own deal on the Challenger, so he always had good support(factory) and was expected to get good results
Hey Cab, I noticed in a couple of rear shots of Rossi's Challenger it had an Idaho plate?? Was he or the car from this area?
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Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally?
[Re: SuperStockWagon]
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12/19/10 11:03 PM
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dos any one have any motor pics
what ever happened to the mirada he used to run
1.39 9.85 - 137 mph
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Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally?
[Re: Ari440]
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12/19/10 11:24 PM
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dos any one have any motor pics
what ever happened to the mirada he used to run
I'm not sure about the Mirada,but my brother in Colorado has Pauls old Rampage.
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Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally?
[Re: Mike Swann]
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12/20/10 12:49 PM
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I think the key thing that helped his program was the 6 pak Edelbrock STR which was really a tunnel ram.
I thought Rossi used the Weiand 6-bbl intake, not the STR... The Weiand fits the "tunnel ram" description better than the STR, too. 
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