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Re: 440 Rear Main Seal Rope
[Re: jsully]
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12/17/10 10:05 PM
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Troy
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I bought a few of them from Napa not that long ago.
Victor Reinz
Part number JV 551
....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!
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Re: 440 Rear Main Seal Rope
[Re: roadrunner7020]
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12/18/10 12:21 PM
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I got mine at carquest as well. Sorry if i hijack this but has anyone put one in with the engine in the car? I just went back to rubber so i didnt have to hassle with it still leaks a little.
That I have not ever been able to do, even with the old school special rope seal tools...
Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Re: 440 Rear Main Seal Rope
[Re: moper]
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12/18/10 12:42 PM
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you can loose the mains with engine on car a little bit to be able to drop it some, and get clearence to fit the upper rope seal.
BTDT
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Re: 440 Rear Main Seal Rope
[Re: RapidRobert]
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12/18/10 01:56 PM
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The sealant is for the sides and ends of the seal retainer. They used to use expanding gaskets in there. Now it's just silicone.
Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Re: 440 Rear Main Seal Rope
[Re: moper]
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12/18/10 01:59 PM
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Nothing goes on the rope? (ex for a smear of oil for the crank of course)
live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth
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Re: 440 Rear Main Seal Rope
[Re: Commando1]
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12/18/10 08:42 PM
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Here is what the factory told their dealers to do. This concerns Hemis, I don't know when this fix was incorporated into the BBs. Courtesy of Hamtramck-Historical.com No. 71-9-3 (TSB 36) 1-7-1971 New Rubber Rear Oil Seal For Crankshaft All Plymouth Equipped with 426 C.I.D Hemi Engine Page 1 Page 2 I will be going with a rope seal on my engine.
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Re: 440 Rear Main Seal Rope
[Re: Fig]
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12/19/10 12:36 PM
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jsully
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Installed new billet aluminum cap.
The 440 source rear main seal cap needs to have .010 taken off of the height (where it sits on the block) to get the correct amount of crush on the seal. This is per 440 source. I don't know what brand you used but just a thought.... Good luck
I do have a new retainer from 440Source. This is news to me. What is the finished dimension height?
Just measured mine (from area where bolt sits is 2.980" (+-.001))
Does this measurement sound right?
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Re: 440 Rear Main Seal Rope
[Re: jsully]
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12/20/10 03:17 PM
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Mine is in the motor , can't measure it sorry. Call 440 source and pick their brain. I met a guy at a car show this spring that had the rear main leak, he found out about having to mill off the .010 to stop the leak. I just purchased a rear main seal cap from 440 source two weeks ago, i asked them about cutting the .010 off, they said it should be done.
Why they don't make them the correct size???????????
1937 Plymouth R/S Coupe
440/727
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Re: 440 Rear Main Seal Rope
[Re: Snoopy]
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12/20/10 03:36 PM
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Here is what the factory told their dealers to do. This concerns Hemis, I don't know when this fix was incorporated into the BBs.
Courtesy of Hamtramck-Historical.com
No. 71-9-3 (TSB 36)
1-7-1971
New Rubber Rear Oil Seal For Crankshaft
All Plymouth Equipped with 426 C.I.D Hemi Engine
Page 1
Page 2
I will be going with a rope seal on my engine.
wow! 5.6 hours to drop the exhaust, pull the transmission, drop the oil pan, pull the damper, get the old seal out, put the new seal in, and button it all back up 
i'm not an expert mechanic be any means, but i have been at this for a long time.
don't think i'd be seeing all of that in 5.6 hours! of course, a lift does help, along with a helper to do the trans, but still...
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What was the exact assembly line procedure? 