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Re: NOS turbo 440 manifold??? [Re: blownzoom440] #878111
12/18/10 04:52 PM
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not to ramble on but if there was a 1 way flap in the tube a high back pressure could close the system before it got to the turbos/carb's




The fuel/air mix inside the IC core would be the bomb. Ignite that mess and it's going to blow.


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Re: NOS turbo 440 manifold??? [Re: feets] #878112
12/18/10 05:06 PM
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that is what thay make the burst plate for correct?dont think that i am being arguementive,i like finding ways to make things work.

Re: NOS turbo 440 manifold??? [Re: blownzoom440] #878113
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The manifolds were add ons. They were sold through a place called turbo power until about the mid '80s.
As for intercooling a draw through system... The minimal positive theoretical effect won't come anywhere close to outweighing the negatives that come with it. Draw through systems suck(litterally) and adding an intercooler just makes it worse.


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Re: NOS turbo 440 manifold??? [Re: TRENDZ] #878114
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so even with the I/C on the pressure side you feel it is restrictive?gaining 1 hp per *F IAT drop what is the negative?

Re: NOS turbo 440 manifold??? [Re: blownzoom440] #878115
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The carb will ice below 50 degrees F. In addition, fuel will fall out of suspension in the IC through lower velocity and condensing due to the temperature and pressure drop.


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Re: NOS turbo 440 manifold??? [Re: feets] #878116
12/19/10 03:11 AM
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The carb will ice below 50 degrees F. In addition, fuel will fall out of suspension in the IC through lower velocity and condensing due to the temperature and pressure drop.




Beat me to it. Your intercooler will fill up with fuel as it cools, condenses and falls out of suspension. Really draw through carbs are not a good idea at all. You'd be a million times better off in just using a holley double pumper in a blow through application. Better driveability, performance, safer. Draw through is doable with port efi because the fuel is still injected at the head. Yet it's still not the most desirable because if a turbo pressure hose bursts you have no means of controlling engine speed.

Re: NOS turbo 440 manifold??? [Re: feets] #878117
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The carb will ice below 50 degrees F. In addition, fuel will fall out of suspension in the IC through lower velocity and condensing due to the temperature and pressure drop.



i do see a lot of fuel loss on my A/W with the roots but the velocity has me puzzled as the I/C would be no different the a tunnel ram with a plenum.i am sure the velocity gets complecated on just where the fuel would fall from suspension.thanks for your input.

Re: NOS turbo 440 manifold??? [Re: feets] #878118
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i forgot about this pic.a boat engine on koffels dyno in 2006.

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Re: NOS turbo 440 manifold??? [Re: blownzoom440] #878119
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I have a old RV Turbo kit on the 440 in my '85 W-350 Crewcab. It does really well for it's age and puts out 7psi max boost, on a 10 to 1 440 that's plenty for me


'85 W-350 Crew Cab, Turbocharged 440, NP435/205, 4.10 D60f/70r
Re: NOS turbo 440 manifold??? [Re: Turbo W350] #878120
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I have a old RV Turbo kit on the 440 in my '85 W-350 Crewcab. It does really well for it's age and puts out 7psi max boost, on a 10 to 1 440 that's plenty for me




A real 10:1?

How's the MPG's?


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Re: NOS turbo 440 manifold??? [Re: Rug_Trucker] #878121
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True 10:1, the engine is a '68 with zero deck uncut flat top forged pistons, ported #452 heads, other than the intake the rest is factory stock. Yes it is water/meth injected with injection being triggered by vacuum not boost.

Mileage is 10-13 unloaded, 5-8 when towing up to 10K.

Here's a pic of it.

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Re: NOS turbo 440 manifold??? [Re: fastmopars] #878122
02/12/11 10:21 PM
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Air goes thru the carb into an adapterplate, thru the turbo compressor, and then back thru a separate chamber in the adapter plate and into the intake manifold.






same principle as the Martin/ Accel units





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