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... I've never even ridden in a mopar that can handle as well as my wife's 90 Camry, or even our Suburban with my wife, kids and the dog in it.

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So I assume nobody's driving LeMans or Nurburgring. Where the heck are you guys driving that you need so much braking? Down a mineshaft?

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You hammerdown this straight then slow down and pucker up for this tight left hander.



Rear end is raised up slighly under hard braking.



Into corner



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It just seems to put discs the size of basketball hoops on a platform like a B or E body is kind of like turbocharging an ice cream truck.

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hmmm...

I put turbochargers on my Belvedere as well as 14" brakes. I use it to go get ice cream. Does that count?

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If you had a small car like a Torana, only 14.17" rotors like mine would do..

(They are 1.41" thick too )

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heheh.. far too many of those little cars around here as it is

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Darren, Oz, when will you two grow up? After all, you both know that mine's better.

Ya see, Oz STOLE the brake rotor thing from me. It seems that I had to do everything except bolt 'em to the car for him. I had been threatened with vile and vulgar things involving zombie penguins or something like that.

This is the 8 piston caliper that belongs on Oz's rotors.



He was too lame to install the matching rear rotors:



I'll be moving them over to the Imperial. When that's done, I might make a stop in the LA area to see if those cutesy little Aussie cars make good speed bumps for real American iron.

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autoxcuda, I know you have really got your cuda dialed in as I have read some of your other posts, and would like to connect with you at Woodley. I have a 68 fastback (although its a big block)and would like to get your advice on suspension, etc.

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My whole point in the post was not to defend factory brakes. It just seems to put discs the size of basketball hoops on a platform like a B or E body is kind of like turbocharging an ice cream truck.

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So what's the deal with the massive disk brake setups so popular today? Ten inch, 12", 14" rotors, 4 pad, 6 pad, what, 12 pad?

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I've never even ridden in a mopar that can handle as well as my wife's 90 Camry, or even our Suburban with my wife, kids and the dog in it. Where the heck are you guys driving that you need so much braking?

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I drive in Dallas, TX. We used to have nice people here then everyone in the world thought it'd be a good place to visit and they never went home! Now, there are no rules on the road. I've had a couple close calls that would have resulted in a collision had the old drums been on the car.

My car isn't a G-machine or whatever you want to call it. I do have good brakes, plenty of power (twin turbo 440), and front/rear sway bars. The big brakes and sticky 245/45-18 and 295/45-18 tires help me put a little fun in driving. Even without chassis upgrades the difference is astounding.

I didn't do a "bandwagon" or "keeping up with everybody else" thing. I had the 11/75" front discs and TSM 11" rears. The car was still able to heat up the brakes when I was misbehaving behind the wheel. In fact, I could push through the brakes with the throttle. My own little "unintended acceleration" issue would result in a car that would not stop by brakes alone.
I wanted more brake power to go with my horsepower. When shopping for a brake kit 5 years ago I came up with VERY expensive packages. Working at a Mercedes store opened up the possibilities for good stuff at an employee discount.
I picked up all four corners of the AMG brakes for less than an aftermarket 13" front brake kit cost at the time. It was also more "me" than buying a kit. I have a tendency to find random things that work nicely on my car but were never intended to be there. Why give someone else the money when I can make my own?

Enough babbling. I found 'em cheap (relatively speaking) and made it work. That's what I do.

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Not many people were installing NASCAR drum brakes, but were installing HP engines.

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Wow, the overseas crowd is being a bit rough on this old guy!

I do drive slower than the surrounding traffic, about 3-5 mph. There are enough weavers, idiots,and jerks here in Southern Ca. I despise that kind of disrespectful driving.

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If what you got works, just maintain it, and smile at the newest/greatest/biggest crowd.

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I can't recall having any difficulty bringing my 69 340 Dart (manual drum brakes) down from 110+mph, many times. So what's the deal with the massive disk brake setups so popular today? Ten inch, 12", 14" rotors, 4 pad, 6 pad, what, 12 pad? I've never even ridden in a mopar that can handle as well as my wife's 90 Camry, or even our Suburban with my wife, kids and the dog in it. So I assume nobody's driving LeMans or Nurburgring. Where the heck are you guys driving that you need so much braking? Down a mineshaft?

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I've never even ridden in a mopar that can handle as well as my wife's 90 Camry, or even our Suburban with my wife, kids and the dog in it.

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Mike,

While I don't usually go for the uber large custom braking systems either due to the cost, I do take a bit of offense to your statement made above. It shows a lot of hyperbole at best, and a definite lack of knowledge and experience at worst.

I have driven a lot of old Mopars in my time, and several of them are far above the handling capabilites of a Suburban or a Camry . The torsion bar front suspension was hailed as the basis of some of the best handling American cars of their day, a fact which is still repeated by people who are surprised when they drive a properly aligned and cared for old Mopar with modern rubber on the ground.

I personally have driven such cars at triple digit speeds in emergency situations, and a '78 Monaco A38 or an AHB Fury will handle just as well as a 9C1 Caprice or the newest Crown Vic P71 with comparable rims and tires. I have also crawled into several civilian B, C, E and other size bodies which would surprise you, and if they had the heavy duty suspension option or a trailering package can be a joy to drive in a set of high speed curves. If you would care to do some research and reading on this subject, you will find many others who will tell you the same thing.

Finally, once you put some thought into setting up an old Mopar suspension correctly with just some simple modifications, you can amaze other people in just how flat one of them can corner and run through an evasive lane change scenario. As one person put it, "you have taken a two ton big block Dodge and taught it how to dance."

Suburbans and Camrys? Please.

May God bless America,

Paladin

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I've never even ridden in a mopar that can handle as well as my wife's 90 Camry, or even our Suburban with my wife, kids and the dog in it.

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Mike,

While I don't usually go for the uber large custom braking systems either due to the cost, I do take a bit of offense to your statement made above. It shows a lot of hyperbole at best, and a definite lack of knowledge and experience at worst.

I have driven a lot of old Mopars in my time, and several of them are far above the handling capabilites of a Suburban or a Camry . The torsion bar front suspension was hailed as the basis of some of the best handling American cars of their day, a fact which is still repeated by people who are surprised when they drive a properly aligned and cared for old Mopar with modern rubber on the ground.

I personally have driven such cars at triple digit speeds in emergency situations, and a '78 Monaco A38 or an AHB Fury will handle just as well as a 9C1 Caprice or the newest Crown Vic P71 with comparable rims and tires. I have also crawled into several civilian B, C, E and other size bodies which would surprise you, and if they had the heavy duty suspension option or a trailering package can be a joy to drive in a set of high speed curves. If you would care to do some research and reading on this subject, you will find many others who will tell you the same thing.

Finally, once you put some thought into setting up an old Mopar suspension correctly with just some simple modifications, you can amaze other people in just how flat one of them can corner and run through an evasive lane change scenario. As one person put it, "you have taken a two ton big block Dodge and taught it how to dance."

Suburbans and Camrys? Please.

May God bless America,

Paladin

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With the battery in the trunk and now aluiminum heads my old E body don't do to bad in the twistes now a days.