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Dumb ?, will 69 Charger front clip bolt on to 68 Sat? #869465
12/02/10 01:51 PM
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I think I already know the answer to this question but I wanted to know for sure. Will a 69 Charger front clip bolt on and line up to a 68 Satellite? I know the doorshell & shape is diffrent, along with the middle body line but can you swap the front clip? I'm seriously thinking about building a Charger wagon out of my 68 Satellite wagon, which is why I ask. I plan in grafting door skins and since AMD makes the front clip the possibility is there.

Re: Dumb ?, will 69 Charger front clip bolt on to 68 Sat? [Re: NV69B7RR] #869466
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If the fender lines do not match up, just slice one from each car in half and join them in the middle.

If you do it right, it can look factory.....for example.

(non Mopar warning )

Back half of the fender is Holden, front half is Camaro.

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Re: Dumb ?, will 69 Charger front clip bolt on to 68 Sat? [Re: OzHemi] #869467
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I love that Ute! I figure on grafting a Charger door skin to the Sat door, because the scalloped door reliefs are what make a Charger, in my opinion.

Re: Dumb ?, will 69 Charger front clip bolt on to 68 Sat? [Re: NV69B7RR] #869468
12/02/10 03:23 PM
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on the Ute, anyway I'd think you'd have to use the Charger doors, the windshield and A-pillars are the same. Then you'd have to figure out how to mate the charger 1/4's on. I think the Charger wheel base is longer thean the RR.


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Re: Dumb ?, will 69 Charger front clip bolt on to 68 Sat? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #869469
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Take it from someone that built a Charger out of a Satellite,the only difference in wheelbase is the front leaf spring brackets. Dodge ones are one inch longer than Plymouth ones. Swap those and the wheelbase problem is fixed. You will also need a drive shaft from a Dodge B body too,because they are one inch longer.

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Re: Dumb ?, will 69 Charger front clip bolt on to 68 Sat? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #869470
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Quote:

on the Ute, anyway I'd think you'd have to use the Charger doors, the windshield and A-pillars are the same. Then you'd have to figure out how to mate the charger 1/4's on. I think the Charger wheel base is longer thean the RR.



NV69B7RR, stated that it was a Satellite "station wagon" he wanted to install the Charger front clip on. B body station wagons and Chargers (and Coronets) were built on 117" wheel base.

Re: Dumb ?, will 69 Charger front clip bolt on to 68 Sat? [Re: NV69B7RR] #869471
12/02/10 07:28 PM
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Quote:

I love that Ute! I figure on grafting a Charger door skin to the Sat door, because the scalloped door reliefs are what make a Charger, in my opinion.




The door skin swap would be a cool idea too!



The ute has been getting a ton of attention in Oz..I just shipped a couple more new Camaro front clips over to convert some more

Re: Dumb ?, will 69 Charger front clip bolt on to 68 Sat? [Re: OzHemi] #869472
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Unless your going to get into changing the wagon into a two door,then you would be better off grafting a section of the Charger door skin onto the wagons original front doors. If you want to go with a two door version,you could use a Charger door shell,and attach the upper door frame onto the Charger door shell. You would have to extend the upper door frame to the length of the Charger door. You would need to cut a section of the upper door frame from the rear door to extend the front ones to Charger door lenght. You would need to have special door glass made,or use Lexan. The other option would be to use B body convertible vent window frames,tracks,and side glass. They will bolt right into Charger doors like factory peices. You cannot use the original Charger vent window frames as they do not have the correct angle or height to meet up with your A pillars. But convertible ones have the correct height and angle to fit correctly. You will need to use the upper window gaskets and gasket channels and cut them to fit in order for the windows to seal and keep water out of the car. You will have to move the B door post back to the size opening for a two door. the B post will have to be widened,as Chargers flare out two inches more than other B bodies. This can be accomplished by grafting the Charger jamb to the Plymouth wagon jamb. The Charger nose and doors will bolt right onto your 68 Pltmouth if you remove the b pillars,and you will also need to cut the hood bumper plates off the top of the radiator support. 69 Charger fenders already have the hood bumper plates attached to them already. If you go with the two door version using original Charger doors,you will need to graft Charger Rear quarter panel skins to the rear of the car,because Charger doors will stick out two inches beyond the Satellite wagon rear quarter panels. If you go that route,I recommend using the reproduction Charger rear quarter skins from Sherman,because they have three inches of metal to work with over the top body line. to use the AMD full panels for this graft would be a waste of money,when the Sherman skins have enough metal on top to do the graft. You could then build a frame inside the rear quarter window area,and turn the car into a sedan delivery type car. As far as how to do the rear of the car,you will have to get creative there. the Charger has a rear valence and corners,and a tailpanel,and the wagon has a door and a bumper below it. It will take some real creativity to make the back of the car into a Charger,and still have the door function. I would probably use the long straight tailight assembly from a 66/67 Charger,and slice it so part of the light stays on the quarters and the rest goes across the tailgate. A little black plastic glued on the edges of the cuts in the lenses would finish it off nicely,and give a factory appearance. Good luck with the project. Give us an update if you decide to go this route.

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Re: Dumb ?, will 69 Charger front clip bolt on to 68 Sat? [Re: chargervert] #869473
12/03/10 12:03 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I'd definately leave it a 4dr, so the kids have room and its a whole lot less work. AMD sells Charger door skins so I'd graft most of that to the doors, blending the lines into the doors and onto rear 1/4's. Wagon quarters are very different from 2drs, and the body lines will go with the Chargers pretty well actually. You are right about back end, that is where it would get hard to do and have it look "correct". So it wouldn't like bolted on crap. Theres not enough room in the tailgate to graft tailights because of the window assy, and I don't think it would look right anyways. 68 tailights may work. I'll start at the front end and work my way back, leaving the back end for last. My goal would be to have it look almost factory. Now if somebody would buy my RR I'll start ordering parts for it the same day.







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