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Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno..... [Re: RyanJ] #862951
11/27/10 06:25 PM
11/27/10 06:25 PM
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Pay no attention.... Motor Plate picture for Bob George to copy for my buddies Challenger...




Thanks,I still have the template,are the atthment holes similar?

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno..... [Re: B G Racing] #862952
11/27/10 08:30 PM
11/27/10 08:30 PM
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State College, PA
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Pay no attention.... Motor Plate picture for Bob George to copy for my buddies Challenger...




Thanks,I still have the template,are the atthment holes similar?




If you have the template, make it identical to mine.

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno..... [Re: RyanJ] #862953
11/27/10 08:59 PM
11/27/10 08:59 PM
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was that the egt's going red on you, ending the pulls?


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Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno..... [Re: Performance Only] #862954
11/27/10 10:31 PM
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i really can hardly wait to hear what that thing does in the 1/4,these are my favorite post for shizzle my nizzle lol

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno..... [Re: Performance Only] #862955
11/28/10 07:50 PM
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State College, PA
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was that the egt's going red on you, ending the pulls?





The middle green lines on bottom of screen are EGT's & warning was set @ 1500.

You can visably see how uneven the EGT's are during pull on the 1197 one with the EX V carb hat. Compare them to the EGT lines under boost on the 1214 pull where they are very close together.

As far as them spiking after pull is over, lack of blow off valve.... I need to install one before it goes in car. It's pumping bunch of boost & raw fuel into it after it comes off WOT dumping that raw fuel into pipes.

Red warning box to right of EGT's above the large 105% Correction factor box is the water brake temp warning.

I see the boost warning light actually came on on one pull after the throttle was closed again turbo unable to get rid of the boost with lack of BOV.

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno..... [Re: RyanJ] #862956
12/20/10 11:43 AM
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On behalf of SDCE, I would like to comment on your post.

We do still offer the carb hats for those interested. Unfortunately we do not have any in stock and were waiting for the foundry to make more. Then our shop was flooded...and that pushed our entire schedule back.

Yes, we did take a beating on the turbo forums with the info that was posted at the time. We're not sure how that entire post went the way it did, but hey, that's the internet for you.

As far as how many hats "blew up"....here is where we need to clear the air. It was only ONE hat that was misused and failed. When that customer expressed an interest in purchasing our hat, we had many phone conversations with him and because he was local, we even offered FREE CHASSIS DYNO TUNING after hearing what some of his past experiences were.
He opted to do it himself, and the end result is all over the forum.

So the bottom line is of the 300 or so SDCE hats out there, only one failed.

We have MANY years of research into that hat design. It was originally created in 1998.


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Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno..... [Re: fastfish] #862957
12/20/10 03:08 PM
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State College, PA
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On behalf of SDCE, I would like to comment on your post.

We do still offer the carb hats for those interested. Unfortunately we do not have any in stock and were waiting for the foundry to make more. Then our shop was flooded...and that pushed our entire schedule back.

Yes, we did take a beating on the turbo forums with the info that was posted at the time. We're not sure how that entire post went the way it did, but hey, that's the internet for you.

As far as how many hats "blew up"....here is where we need to clear the air. It was only ONE hat that was misused and failed. When that customer expressed an interest in purchasing our hat, we had many phone conversations with him and because he was local, we even offered FREE CHASSIS DYNO TUNING after hearing what some of his past experiences were.
He opted to do it himself, and the end result is all over the forum.

So the bottom line is of the 300 or so SDCE hats out there, only one failed.

We have MANY years of research into that hat design. It was originally created in 1998.




Yeah I went back & re-read those couple post about your hat couple weeks ago, 98% of those guys posting on those posts were morons who could not grasp the fact that the amount of A/F mix in your hat VS: an EX Velocity would be tremendously different, incredible difference in surface area, & obviously yours will experience a ton more pressure during a back fire than a much smaller hat. I just laughed my ass off when they were all saying about how they've backfired an EX V hat & never had it blow apart etc. They can't even seem to grasp simple concepts such as volume & pressure etc.

I really wish I had one of your hats to test with when we dynoed this thing... I just did not realize how BAD the EX V hat was until I saw it with own eyes on the EGT's.... otherwise I would have had enough forethought to have some other brand hats lined up for testing. Yours & maybe the Vortech are about best looking internal designs I have found...

We just put my motor in the car this weekend & had to re-do some more exhaust plumbing, that was fun for the 3rd or 4th time. & Now I'm fairly sure the new carb hat is'nt going to clear the hood even with my 6" Cowl....(need an 8") We're gonna put hood on this weekend & see for sure what's gonna happen. But I can tell you the hat will get re-done long before I re-do that damn hood.

Hopefully I can get it fired this weekend & make couple preliminary blasts with it with no hood.

I will be doing a 493" INDY SR motor here in near future with an S480 on it & will look into getting one of your hats down here for dyno testing.

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno..... [Re: RyanJ] #862958
12/20/10 07:40 PM
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i had to giggle ryan maybe if enough of us use no hood,the look will grow

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Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno..... [Re: fishy340] #862959
12/20/10 09:26 PM
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Ryan I see alot of turbo cars with pieces parts protruding through the hood here and there. Might be better than running a monster 8" cowl.


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Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno..... [Re: ProSport] #862960
12/20/10 10:07 PM
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State College, PA
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Ryan I see alot of turbo cars with pieces parts protruding through the hood here and there. Might be better than running a monster 8" cowl.




I'll get something stuffed under there.... just have to make a few changes here/there. Won't change the hood no matter what.

Re: My 417" W9 Turbo Engine Back on Dyno..... [Re: RyanJ] #862961
04/22/11 04:18 PM
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Ryan, do you think the air discrepancies would still exist in a EFI set up?

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