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Re: Will Team Farce Strike Again???
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11/14/10 09:05 AM
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oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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Look at Kalitta.The year Doug was in the chase they pretty much came straight out and said the fix was in so he could get points.It happens all the time.You still have to win rounds no matter what your team mates do.Rocky
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Re: Will Team Farce Strike Again???
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11/14/10 10:48 AM
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I most certainly would not be happy if one of the Mopar teams gave team orders to win a championship. A few years back Schumacher had Scelzi lay down for Bazemore when Whit was in the title hunt (actually, Scelzi had lane choice and intentionally took the bad lane). That was a low point for me as a Mopar drag fan, and I lost a lot of respect for The Don that day. I gained some of that respect back a few weeks later when he admitted it, said he was wrong, and said they'd never do it again.
Phil Burgess from National Dragster is asking fans to contribute their favorite moments from the first 60 years of the NHRA for a special they're doing next year. Right at the top of the list I sent him is when Melanie Troxel raced a team-mate straight up with her spot in the Countdown on the line, and she lost. Melanie does not have the backing John Force does. She has to scramble to get a ride every year. Getting in the Countdown is potentially big for her career. And she raced straight-up. That's how drag racing should be. I want to spend my money and time on a product that's fair, not fixed. I deserve better than John Force's team manipulating championships by having team-mates lay down for each other.
Call me a simpleton, naive, whatever, but when I'm teaching my five-year-old twins the right way to behave, I'm using Melanie Troxel as an example, not John Force.
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Re: Will Team Farce Strike Again???
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11/14/10 10:55 AM
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I most certainly would not be happy if one of the Mopar teams gave team orders to win a championship. A few years back Schumacher had Scelzi lay down for Bazemore when Whit was in the title hunt (actually, Scelzi had lane choice and intentionally took the bad lane). That was a low point for me as a Mopar drag fan, and I lost a lot of respect for The Don that day. I gained some of that respect back a few weeks later when he admitted it, said he was wrong, and said they'd never do it again.
Phil Burgess from National Dragster is asking fans to contribute their favorite moments from the first 60 years of the NHRA for a special they're doing next year. Right at the top of the list I sent him is when Melanie Troxel raced a team-mate straight up with her spot in the Countdown on the line, and she lost. Melanie does not have the backing John Force does. She has to scramble to get a ride every year. Getting in the Countdown is potentially big for her career. And she raced straight-up. That's how drag racing should be. I want to spend my money and time on a product that's fair, not fixed. I deserve better than John Force's team manipulating championships by having team-mates lay down for each other.
Call me a simpleton, naive, whatever, but when I'm teaching my five-year-old twins the right way to behave, I'm using Melanie Troxel as an example, not John Force.
so what, todays NHRA is not about racing and doing whats right it's about big money, sponsorship etc. it's nothing but a show plain and simple.if they were concerned about team cars taking a dive so the other team car can win a championship there wouldn't be team cars. you are your kids biggest role model forget about Troxel, Force or anyone else. 
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Re: Will Team Farce Strike Again???
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11/14/10 11:11 AM
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Might as well watch WWE or F or whatever.
You keep setting examples for your children and praising those who do the right thing in front of them. QUICKTREE, somethings are more important than winning....That is winning and everyone knowing you really deserved it.
Hagans own team mate took three points from him last round. I say great he was doing what he is supposed to "race to win".
SCREW ALL THE MEGA TEAMS. It's ruining the sport in NHRA as well as NASCAR. A little guy has no chance. I love how the NHRA media portrays Matt Hagan. I like him, he is a home towner of sorts and I remember his start in Drag Racing a Pro Street/ PRO Mod deal. But, make no mistake their is no shortness for money in those pockets either.
Leon
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Re: Will Team Farce Strike Again???
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11/14/10 11:18 AM
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but at the same time if it WASnt for john force takeing the lead on safety alot of drivers would have not survived a few crashes he has done alot for drag racing
I don't deny that Force has done a lot for drag racing. That doesn't give him the right to manipulate championships by having team-mates lay down for each other. If I donate a million dollars to cancer research, does that give me the right to murder the co-worker I'm competing with for a promotion?
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Re: Will Team Farce Strike Again???
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11/14/10 11:54 AM
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but at the same time if it WASnt for john force takeing the lead on safety alot of drivers would have not survived a few crashes he has done alot for drag racing
I don't deny that Force has done a lot for drag racing. That doesn't give him the right to manipulate championships by having team-mates lay down for each other. If I donate a million dollars to cancer research, does that give me the right to murder the co-worker I'm competing with for a promotion?
how did you prove he manipulated championships? or is that just speculation? easy to be an arm chair quarterback 
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Re: Will Team Farce Strike Again???
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11/14/10 11:55 AM
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can you beat unlimited money mayby once in a while but not on a regular basis. thats what this sport has become.
Cruz and Tony Pedregon each won funnycar titles as independent team owners in the last seven years. In fact, one reason Tony left Team Farce was he didn't want to lay down for the boss anymore.
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Re: Will Team Farce Strike Again???
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11/14/10 12:17 PM
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Force has a gimmie 1st round 
May the Best Man Win the Championship today!!! 
Wouldn't it be awesome if another guy who used to have to lay down for Force, Gary Densham, took him out first round? BTW, Densham is the guy that brought AAA's sponsorship to JFR Racing, then got dumped for Force's son-in-law.
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Re: Will Team Farce Strike Again???
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11/14/10 12:43 PM
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If I donate a million dollars to cancer research, does that give me the right to murder the co-worker I'm competing with for a promotion?
On the surface........no.
But you should be able to chain smoke Chesterfields with impunity.
And you can't.
Ya know why ?
Because life isn't fair.
I know it's tough nut to get a hold of , but it is the truth with all the varnish stripped away and the bright lights turned down.
A notion that no one seems to want to grapple with.
As we used to say back in the day........ Bummer , Dude.
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I'd be willing to bet y'all wouldn't be hating on him so much if he ran a MoPar body.
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I have got to put my other 
in while we are on JFR. At the Southern Nationals in Atlanta Ga. this year on Friday I went over to the L'ill Cutie(Ashley)Forces pit as they were bringing her car back from a run. A Boss Ford Hemi has the plugs straight up out the top of the valve covers and the dist.(mag) comes straight up in the front.A Mopar Hemi has the plugs in the center of the valve covers and the dist. does not come straight up(all of us Mopar Guys know that). 
Got DVR set time to head out to the track 
we are our own worst enemies. we wanted sponsorship and big money now we have it. this is what it breeds. back in the day when the drivers worked on the cars and drove the car carriers that was racing. now it's jsut another WWE