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1967 Chrysler 300 with 440 TNT engine #851409
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Anyone have one of these or pictures of an original one? Trying to determine what air cleaner it came with and what the pie tin or decal looked like.

Thinking the air cleaner might look like the '67 B-body 440 dual snorkel but slightly taller.

Thanks, Nick.

Re: 1967 Chrysler 300 with 440 TNT engine [Re: NicksGarage] #851410
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back in the 80s, I parted out a '69 chrysler with a 383 HP engine and it had a dual snorkle type air cleaner, but it did NOT have a pie-tin. and the Air cleaner housing had a smaller "dimple" in the top, so it would not accept a pie-tin...maybe the 440 version was the same on a Chrysler??

Re: 1967 Chrysler 300 with 440 TNT engine [Re: NicksGarage] #851411
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You mean like this? Not that MY '67 300 came with the TNT engine, but I think the assembly is what you are looking for.

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Re: 1967 Chrysler 300 with 440 TNT engine [Re: MowP4rsn] #851412
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Is that the air cleaner that came on the car?

I'm trying to find a TNT one because it should have come with a pie tin or at least a decal on the air cleaner. The air cleaner on yours looks like a '68 that doesn't accept the pie tin but I just don't have enough reference material for '67 C-bodies.

Re: 1967 Chrysler 300 with 440 TNT engine [Re: NicksGarage] #851413
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Is that the air cleaner that came on the car?

I'm trying to find a TNT one because it should have come with a pie tin or at least a decal on the air cleaner. The air cleaner on yours looks like a '68 that doesn't accept the pie tin but I just don't have enough reference material for '67 C-bodies.




I had a '67 Fury L code, belonged to an old man got it in '83. It was an A/C car, had a Carter 4327S carb w/ the small airhorn. The air cleaner looked like the '67 B body air cleaner on your site, had the oval belled snorkels and no crankcase breather nipple. As a HP Plymouth it had a VERY worn red 440 Super Commando pie tin. While I don't remember seeing a '67 TNT Chrysler I would assume it would be the same air cleaner w/ the TNT pie tin?

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Re: 1967 Chrysler 300 with 440 TNT engine [Re: 3hundred] #851414
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Is that the air cleaner that came on the car?

I'm trying to find a TNT one because it should have come with a pie tin or at least a decal on the air cleaner. The air cleaner on yours looks like a '68 that doesn't accept the pie tin but I just don't have enough reference material for '67 C-bodies.




Do you remember if the air cleaner had a textured finish or straight paint?

What I'm trying to do is nail down why there are two different height '67 dual-snorkel air cleaners that can take a pie tin. One is 3 3/8" tall and the other about 4".





I had a '67 Fury L code, belonged to an old man got it in '83. It was an A/C car, had a Carter 4327S carb w/ the small airhorn. The air cleaner looked like the '67 B body air cleaner on your site, had the oval belled snorkels and no crankcase breather nipple. As a HP Plymouth it had a VERY worn red 440 Super Commando pie tin. While I don't remember seeing a '67 TNT Chrysler I would assume it would be the same air cleaner w/ the TNT pie tin?

Robert



Re: 1967 Chrysler 300 with 440 TNT engine [Re: NicksGarage] #851415
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Quote:

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Is that the air cleaner that came on the car?

I'm trying to find a TNT one because it should have come with a pie tin or at least a decal on the air cleaner. The air cleaner on yours looks like a '68 that doesn't accept the pie tin but I just don't have enough reference material for '67 C-bodies.




Do you remember if the air cleaner had a textured finish or straight paint?

What I'm trying to do is nail down why there are two different height '67 dual-snorkel air cleaners that can take a pie tin. One is 3 3/8" tall and the other about 4".





I had a '67 Fury L code, belonged to an old man got it in '83. It was an A/C car, had a Carter 4327S carb w/ the small airhorn. The air cleaner looked like the '67 B body air cleaner on your site, had the oval belled snorkels and no crankcase breather nipple. As a HP Plymouth it had a VERY worn red 440 Super Commando pie tin. While I don't remember seeing a '67 TNT Chrysler I would assume it would be the same air cleaner w/ the TNT pie tin?

Robert







Fortunately, I still have the air cleaner, never been painted, it came with the standard semi gloss, not crinkle finish. The depth is ~ 3.5",definitely NOT 4". Just got back from measuring it in the garage.

There is one variable, this car came with chrome valve covers, as far as I've ever been able to find out an obscure one year only C body deal. They talked about this on the old C body dry dock, I've never seen any documentation for it. Whether that could have affected the air cleaner, I have no idea.

Before I hit send, I dragged it in to compare with the bottom air cleaner in your picture, they're the same with the exception of paint. Mine has the torsion bar relief in the rear and the A/C relief in the front, done exactly the same as yours.

Robret


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'15 Durango 5.7 Hemi
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How about the base plate, do you have the one on the left or the right in this picture?


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How about the base plate, do you have the one on the left or the right in this picture?






I don't think I've ever seen the base on the right. Everything I have here, (3) is like the one on the left, all are the same height. The other two are '68 or '69, both have crankcase breather nipples, both are same snorkel style, one has the nipple on the snorkel, the other on the body of the breather. One accepts a pie tin, the other does not. There is one other difference, the '67 air cleaner is about 3/4" larger in overall diameter, doesn't effect the air filter it takes though.

I'll see if I can get a pic later, camera battery is charging now. A pic should really help sort this out as I'm so bad at descriptions.

Robert

edit, the one that does NOT accept a pie tin is identical to the one MowP4rsn posted.


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Re: 1967 Chrysler 300 with 440 TNT engine [Re: NicksGarage] #851418
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How about the base plate, do you have the one on the left or the right in this picture?






Nick - I pulled them back out again to see if there is anything else about the taller air cleaner worth mentioning. I confirmed that one is 3.38" and the other is 4". The outside diameter of both are the same (I think there are two different "large" diameter air cleaners). The rear facing indentation is different. Its longer, deeper and not symmetrical as compared to the original 67. Also, the base that came with it is for the larger air horn. I don't know if it is the correct base for the lid however.

Is there something that leads you to believe that it is a 67?

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I'm not sure about anything!

Here are pictures of another one with the deep base. Since I don't have this air cleaner I can't measure the carb opening to see which size it is. The larger air horn would imply a '68 or '69. I could see the rear of the air cleaner being different for c-bodies in '67 and '68 because they use torsion bars on the hood and they need clearance that would be different than just the wiper clearance on the smaller cars.










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