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Re: Seat Belt Restoration
[Re: joewhite440]
#847209
11/10/10 12:08 PM
11/10/10 12:08 PM
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Calgary, Alberta Canada
m46rat
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I got my set off Bill for my 70 Challenger last month. Great complete set all covers , bolts, Retractor covers etc and correct looking date tags. Very good to deal with.
Can you post a few pictures of the belts, chrome ends, etc, that he did for you?
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Re: Seat Belt Restoration
[Re: hemi70se]
#847211
11/12/10 11:22 AM
11/12/10 11:22 AM
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If you want your belts restored "dead nuts" correct go with "Sharon's Web" in TX ( she used to work for Snake Oyl). I had her do a set of American Safety belts and there were truly top notch. Even the tags were right on the money. The tags ECS make are only for Pontenier brand belts which have a different style to them. Sharon replates EVERYTHING including the chrome! I don't believe Bill's service does this and that is why he is cheaper. 
Ill take the credit for Snake-Oyl offering the tag service.  When I sent my belts to them many years ago I also sent some new tags I had made at a graphics joint who I supplied with some very similar material to original. not long after *BAM* there they are offering the service of reproduction tags on their new belts. 
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Re: Seat Belt Restoration
[Re: LimeliteAero]
#847214
11/12/10 02:25 PM
11/12/10 02:25 PM
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David Walden
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David Walden
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If you want your belts restored "dead nuts" correct go with "Sharon's Web" in TX ( she used to work for Snake Oyl). I had her do a set of American Safety belts and there were truly top notch. Even the tags were right on the money. The tags ECS make are only for Pontenier brand belts which have a different style to them. Sharon replates EVERYTHING including the chrome! I don't believe Bill's service does this and that is why he is cheaper.
Ill take the credit for Snake-Oyl offering the tag service. When I sent my belts to them many years ago I also sent some new tags I had made at a graphics joint who I supplied with some very similar material to original. not long after *BAM* there they are offering the service of reproduction tags on their new belts.
Very good information to know and pass along. I am almost positive that I am the only company in the World licensed to manufacture and distribute these labels. It took me the better part of 14 months (and a few grand) to be able to offer these items to the Market. The legalities were a mess to work out! Chrysler mandates every detail that I have to comply with in order to offer these to the industry. Nice to see that some of you are freewheeling and having such a good old time manufacturing this proprietary product. 
For the record, ECS LEGALLY manufactures both styles of labels! I also guarantee that what is being "bootlegged" by a few of you is NOT the correct material that was used by Chrysler.
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Re: Seat Belt Restoration
[Re: ECS]
#847215
11/12/10 07:23 PM
11/12/10 07:23 PM
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David Walden
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.....I am almost positive that I am the only company in the World licensed to manufacture and distribute these labels.....
Yep....I was right about that one. I hope the "bootleggers" enjoy the fallout.
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Re: Seat Belt Restoration
[Re: m46rat]
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11/13/10 02:14 AM
11/13/10 02:14 AM
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Here is one that I need:
Do you know its application??
BELT, Rear Seat Lap, Deluxe w/Push Button Buckle
Label No. 3508581
70 Blue B,J - 4786 FB7
70 Green B,J - 4786 FF8
70 Black B,J - 4786 FX9
70 Tan B,J - 4786 FT4
70 Red B,J - 4786 FE5
70 Orange B,J - 4786 FK5
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Re: Seat Belt Restoration
[Re: robertop]
#847220
11/13/10 10:52 AM
11/13/10 10:52 AM
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Well, here's the story. I have 7 brothers and sisters, and as it turns out, none of them can seem to be bothered with helping in the care of my ailing mother. She's now in her 80's, recently broke her back, and requires assistance, so I was able to sell my home in Tennessee and sucessfully made the move here to Washington state, to be available to my mother whenever she needs me. It's a no brainer. It's what sons do. Please let me list my new contact information, and I'd like to thank those that posted my new information. We're back up and runnin, and look forward to helping with your seat belt needs in the future.
Bill Edwards
15009 Canyon Rd. E.
Puyallup, Wa. 98375
253-507-8464
931-703-5574 cell
Please feel free to give me a call and I'd be very happy to explain the entire process, and exactly why I choose not to have the chrome parts replated. Many thanks to all, Bill
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Re: Seat Belt Restoration
[Re: Snoopy]
#847221
11/13/10 09:50 PM
11/13/10 09:50 PM
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Calgary, Alberta Canada
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Here is one that I need:
Do you know its application??
BELT, Rear Seat Lap, Deluxe w/Push Button Buckle
Label No. 3508581
70 Blue B,J - 4786 FB7
70 Green B,J - 4786 FF8
70 Black B,J - 4786 FX9
70 Tan B,J - 4786 FT4
70 Red B,J - 4786 FE5
70 Orange B,J - 4786 FK5
Earl you are correct, I'm not surprised really. Have you or anyone else ever seen an L.A. made 70 E Body with these belts? I have never seen one. Here is a picture of what the anchor end of these belts look like. There seems to have been some issue about this in the past.
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Re: Seat Belt Restoration
[Re: hemi70se]
#847222
11/15/10 01:41 PM
11/15/10 01:41 PM
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David Walden
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David Walden
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Dave,
Did you just start making the American Safety labels?
No. We have had them for some time now! Here are a few samples that we have been manufacturing. We are able to make ANY label or number that was produced through Chrysler. I included a Pontonier example in the bottom right hand corner of the picture just to contrast the different styles!
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Re: Seat Belt Restoration
[Re: Firepowerflyer]
#847223
11/15/10 02:22 PM
11/15/10 02:22 PM
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David Walden
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David Walden
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Contact 69440 on this board his name is Bill Edwards and he restores seatbelts he has nos material and date labels.His pricing is very reasonable I thought.I bought a set for my 69 GTX and was very happy with them.
Joe
As a manufacturer and parts supplier for the hobby, I felt I was obligated to show the work of this person rather than just offer a "typed opinion". This is in no way trying to bash anyone. It is completely factual and I didn't think that he would be upset with his product being showcased! Shouldn't we all be proud of what we do for the industry?!? Keep in mind that the ORIGINALS were sent as a format to use for a pattern. I did not get those samples back because they apparently were "lost" in the ordeal. Below are the pictures that show what I received. The originals (I did keep the "sister" or opposite side belts) are next to the "same" reproduction belt that was made. Notice the incorrect lengths, the incorrect stitching patterns, the incorrect overlaps and how the labels were incorrectly stitched on the opposite ends of their correct location. The "NOS material" was actually no different than the replacement material that can be purchased anywhere. The label was made by my company and forwarded to be attached to the belt.
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Re: Seat Belt Restoration
[Re: Snoopy]
#847226
11/15/10 07:00 PM
11/15/10 07:00 PM
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David Walden
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David Walden
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Re: Seat Belt Restoration
[Re: Snoopy]
#847228
11/15/10 11:32 PM
11/15/10 11:32 PM
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David Walden
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David Walden
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Dave,
Did you have to request that it be done to your specs?
I had to send mine back for rework and they still got it wrong.
I always tell them exactly how I want them done. My Cuda deluxe seat-belts were also restored by Ssnake-Oyl. They too turned out Fantastic. The Valiant seat-belts were original and in pristine condition after I detailed and cleaned them. They did not need to be restored.
You probably wondering why I changed vendors for a brief period of time. It is a long (gullible on my part) story! It is best to just say........lessons learned in pain are seldom forgotten!
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