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Dakota front bumper winch mounting #845985
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I have a 2005 Dakota. Want to mount a winch to the stock front bumper. Looked online for a mounting kit & they are super expensive. Wanted to see if anyone fabed up their own & a pic or two. Just a 2k job to move logs & old junker around with. This is my daily driver so I really dont want it to look like a hack job.


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Re: Dakota front bumper winch mounting [Re: rockerbob] #845986
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I don't think you'd want to hook one to the stock front bumper, will be embarrassing when the winch pulls the bumper off. And I suspect that a purpose built winch bumper, you'd loose your air bags?


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Re: Dakota front bumper winch mounting [Re: GO_Fish] #845987
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I don't think you'd want to hook one to the stock front bumper, will be embarrassing when the winch pulls the bumper off. And I suspect that a purpose built winch bumper, you'd loose your air bags?




Yea I was wondering about that.


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Re: Dakota front bumper winch mounting [Re: rockerbob] #845988
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I recently did some trading for a rebuilt 8k lb winch for my car trailer. I'm planning on making a quick fit bracket for it using a 2" receiver. I'm then also planning on adding a front mount receiver to my truck, so I can quickly mount/dismount the winch. I know my winch isn't really big enough for my truck, but I don't plan on pulling my truck out of a mud bog. Maybe out of an icy ditch though...

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Re: Dakota front bumper winch mounting [Re: closer9] #845989
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thats probably the best idea, for a "cheap" way to do it. get a frame mounted receiver for the front of the truck, and a winch plate for the receiver, then set up a plug so you can plug/unplug it. the stock bumper will end up bent, if you try to winch with it. you need to be tied directly to the frame, with some serious steel, not a stamped piece of thin stuff


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Re: Dakota front bumper winch mounting [Re: Golden-Arm] #845990
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The only other way I could see doing it with a stock bumper is to have a winch mount with some heavy framing that went down, under your bumper and bolted onto the front frame rails.

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Thanks for the info. I think I will reconsider this move for now.


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you can use some 1/4" plate,fab up a structure spanning across the front frame rails,bolt them in where the bumper brackets bolt on, run a piece of 3/16" wall 2 1/2" steel tubing out from under the bumper cover,as mentioned,as a reciever style mount. and when the winch isn't in there,you can fab up a reciever plug with a bracket on it to hold a license plate. that way,with the plate mounted,you will almost hide the whole mount from plain view.and don't forget,harbour freight sells a very nice 10,000# snatch block (about $10.00) that will double your winches capacity. you will just have to mount a hook,or a place for a clevis on your winch mount.

Re: Dakota front bumper winch mounting [Re: superbyrd] #845993
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you can use some 1/4" plate,fab up a structure spanning across the front frame rails,bolt them in where the bumper brackets bolt on, run a piece of 3/16" wall 2 1/2" steel tubing out from under the bumper cover,as mentioned,as a reciever style mount. and when the winch isn't in there,you can fab up a reciever plug with a bracket on it to hold a license plate. that way,with the plate mounted,you will almost hide the whole mount from plain view.and don't forget,harbour freight sells a very nice 10,000# snatch block (about $10.00) that will double your winches capacity. you will just have to mount a hook,or a place for a clevis on your winch mount.





Thats a very good idea. However my fab skills aren't up to that yet


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Re: Dakota front bumper winch mounting [Re: rockerbob] #845994
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Don't know about the 05s, but the 97-04 Dakota's, there are NO sensors on the bumper for air bags. I removed the bumper from my truck to put on the aftermarket one, and 3 bolts per side it drops right off the end of the frame channels.

the airbag sensors are located in a computer that's in the middle of the dash, at least on the 98 trucks. the wire diagrams in the FSM does not show any sensors anywhere on the truck other than the main airbag computer. nothing on the bumpers, nothing on the seatbelts, etc.

for a winch, I wouldn't be afraid of the factory bumper, just use a beef-up reinforcement plate on the backside of the bumper so the bolts don't pull through. if the rear bumper is rated at 200 lbs vertically "tounge weight" and 2,000 lbs horizontally "trailer weight" then I don't see why the front bumper wouldn't hold similar loads.


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Re: Dakota front bumper winch mounting [Re: 70Cuda383] #845995
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The front bumper will not take the load. There's no chance.

I have a small 2000 lb ATV winch that does all kinds of stuff for me. Here's a good way to use it.
Bolted it to a 3/8" thick steel plate. Make sure the back side of the plate sticks out farther than the winch. Attach two pieces of chain about 30" long to the back side of the plate.
Use two wide 5,000 lb hooks on the chains. The wide openings make it easier to hook to various things. Tight opening chain hooks are harder to work with.



Mount two of these tow hooks to the frame rails.



Add a heavy lead off the battery with a 30 amp circuit breaker. Run a lead from the breaker to each end of the truck. End them with a female 3 pole 120 VAC plug like this would plug into.



Use child safety caps to keep dirt out of the plugs.
Stick the male end pictured above on the winch end. The third pole will keep you from plugging it in backwards.

Doing it this way allows me to pull from the front or rear of the truck. My power wires on the rear are folded across the inside of the bumper. That gives me the freedom to hang the winch off the nose of a car trailer and pull cars up using a snatch block. It's marginal for muscle cars but can get the job done.
It's done wonders for all kinds of other things.


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