Auto or Standard Trans Suggestion for Charger
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O.k., I am in the middle of finalizing my 440/512 stroker combo, and deciding on the trans will obviously dictate my cam choice. So here goes experts, what would you do? 69 Charger 90% street and 10% track 440/512 solid roller cam w/Indy MW heads and Indy 2D intake 3.73 gears The car has P.S. and is originally an automatic car. Looking at the Tremec conversion, but the auto is cheaper. Then I'm told I won't be able to use a kickdown if I go auto, because of the horsepower and torque levels.
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Re: Auto or Standard Trans Suggestion for Charger
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10/25/10 08:51 PM
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Then I'm told I won't be able to use a kickdown if I go auto, because of the horsepower and torque levels.
I don't see why not. You can adjust the [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] points like anything else.
Might need to try a few different combonations to get it just right though.
Or get an auto with a MVB and have the best of both worlds ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif)
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Re: Auto or Standard Trans Suggestion for Charger
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10/25/10 09:03 PM
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John Cope said that it would have to have a RMV as a standard forward valve body wouldn't sustain or have any durability.
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Re: Auto or Standard Trans Suggestion for Charger
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Also, I know a 5 speed would be a lot of fun, but how do they hold up to big block strokers in regards to longevity? I was looking at the Tremec 600.
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Re: Auto or Standard Trans Suggestion for Charger
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I have a RMVB in my 69 Charger 496 stroker,,,,and like it alot. I can still "shift" if you will,,,great for "racing"..car feels much faster with the automatic..( to me) ps,,,my car is originally a 4 speed,,might put it back in someday,,when i "restore" the car,,,but not anytime soon.
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Re: Auto or Standard Trans Suggestion for Charger
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10/25/10 09:26 PM
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Thanks ChargerMD, that's the type of feedback I'm looking for. I just want to get this thing right the first time.
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Re: Auto or Standard Trans Suggestion for Charger
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10/25/10 09:40 PM
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John Cope said that it would have to have a RMV as a standard forward valve body wouldn't sustain or have any durability.
I wonder what John's take on THIS VALVE BODY would be? ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/1343795-scratchchin.gif)
We love it in the 72 but that's alot more mild than your talking about
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Re: Auto or Standard Trans Suggestion for Charger
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Mine is also 99% street use. 496, pump gas, E heads, solid cam,etc. Nothing cooler than rowing the gears with the 4 speed,,,but i do like the feel of the automatic with the manual valve body,,,feels much quicker to me,,, I have a turbo action valve body in it. PTC convertor. Cheetah SCS shifter. good luck, Doug ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beer.gif)
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Re: Auto or Standard Trans Suggestion for Charger
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O.k., I am in the middle of finalizing my 440/512 stroker combo, and deciding on the trans will obviously dictate my cam choice. So here goes experts, what would you do? 69 Charger 90% street and 10% track 440/512 solid roller cam w/Indy MW heads and Indy 2D intake 3.73 gears The car has P.S. and is originally an automatic car. Looking at the Tremec conversion, but the auto is cheaper. Then I'm told I won't be able to use a kickdown if I go auto, because of the horsepower and torque levels.
69 Charger BB my choice would a traditional 4-speed all the way ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Twocents.gif)
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Re: Auto or Standard Trans Suggestion for Charger
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My 70 is an original 4 speed but with 517 cubes, max wedge heads, a roller and 12:1 the auto definately hooks better. Cooler? No way, nothing like rowing your own in a vintage muscle car.
I run a RMVB with a Cheetah SCS and a PTC vert I had special built for the motor combination. To be honest with so much torque I run it around town using only 2-3, like a glide but first is Mega-fun when I do use it.
I likke the Keisler package but with a stroker even the TKO 600 first gear is just too deep and the 1-2 spread makes shifting tough on the drivetrain and internals under full power... even with worked synchs. I think I'd go with a traditional 833 or maybe one of Jamie's O/D's (which has a % spread similar to the 727 and you have so much torque the motor will just drive through any RPM drop. I like the Keisler a lot with a 340/383/440 though.
I will go back to 4 speed someday, I keep saying that but the auto really is too [Email]D@%m[/Email] much fun!
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Re: Auto or Standard Trans Suggestion for Charger
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Thank you everyone for your feedback. I value it very much. I also think if I want to take advantage of the torque that I will have to go with the auto. I know I'm going to want to enter it in some musclecar challenges, so I will probably want the auto. Looks like I will also save myself about 3 grand in the process until I get the GV.......
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