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Re: AL wedge Indy Maxx or Keith Black
[Re: tntmachine]
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10/23/10 02:30 AM
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Orange County, Ca.
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I have a 588 rotating assembly and B1MC top end. Should make 1000+ HP, but I'm needing a block. I would like aluminum, but may settle for iron. Which direction should I go.
Back to topic.......
If your motor is going to be a 588, I would think that, if your heads, intake, and cam profile are in unison, you should be able to make, at least 1150HP.
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Re: AL wedge Indy Maxx or Keith Black
[Re: tntmachine]
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10/23/10 02:39 AM
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Las Vegas
Al_Alguire
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To the OP, in all honesty if max HP is what you are after then cast is gonna be the best bet. While it is debateble how much power is lost with aluminum I think we can all agree it will be some. I also agree based on what my deal makes that with a 588 I would think 1100+ is more than doable. Someday I will grow up and build a big motor, but is 588 even big these days  Either way get after it, Going to be nice to see that old Cuda running real fast again. That is a good working car you got for sure. BTW Chris, next time you talk to Jason ask him what his opinion of that cam is now. He is even less impressed now after the failure.....
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Re: AL wedge Indy Maxx or Keith Black
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10/23/10 03:29 AM
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Tucson, Arizona
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Indy low deck with 440 mains. Got it direct from Indy, no complaints at that time.
68 RR 528" INDY MAXX
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Southwest International Raceway - IHRA - Tucson, AZ
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Re: AL wedge Indy Maxx or Keith Black
[Re: tntmachine]
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10/24/10 04:47 PM
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It is Ticer's old Cuda. I bought it roller so I was running a 496 -1 in it. I'm going to step it up to 588 cid B1MC. I have everything I need except the block and oiling system. I started this thread because I was curious if an Indy aluminum block would hold up for me. I know that KB is the top of the line but I never see any of them, in a wedge version, for sale; once in a while you'll see an Indy for sale. If I don't go aluminum the Koleno is what I'll be looking for.
Good luck with whatever you decide to go with 
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Re: AL wedge Indy Maxx or Keith Black
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10/25/10 09:08 AM
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Marion, South Carolina [><]
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KB block here. 
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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
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Re: AL wedge Indy Maxx or Keith Black
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10/25/10 02:07 PM
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The first time I looked at KB block up close was last winter. I bought it and a set of heads, new but unused. After looking at the quality of the block, I will never use anything but a KB block again. Not saying there isn't other quality stuff out there, but they are in my opinion the best.
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Re: AL wedge Indy Maxx or Keith Black
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10/25/10 02:25 PM
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Highland beach Fl
poisondart2
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We suggest that you chose what block works for your intended build.Consider the power level,combo parts,time constraints,availability as well as a realistic budget.Research reliable sources of experiences and results from respected builder and ask questions as to why the preferr a specific block and the advantages as well as the disavantages.If your building under a 1200 HP engine most after market blocks would work fine,If your got for higher HP,goe for the best block your budget can afford.
Would not the BEST block be the one that doesnt break or if it did can be fixed? I thought i saw the KB block advertised for $5,100.00 which aluminum block is cheaper? My 
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Re: AL wedge Indy Maxx or Keith Black
[Re: poisondart2]
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10/25/10 02:40 PM
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Eighty Four, PA
B G Racing
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We suggest that you chose what block works for your intended build.Consider the power level,combo parts,time constraints,availability as well as a realistic budget.Research reliable sources of experiences and results from respected builder and ask questions as to why the preferr a specific block and the advantages as well as the disavantages.If your building under a 1200 HP engine most after market blocks would work fine,If your got for higher HP,goe for the best block your budget can afford.
Would not the BEST block be the one that doesnt break or if it did can be fixed? I thought i saw the KB block advertised for $5,100.00 which aluminum block is cheaper? My
Tell me which one won't break and it's worth it no matter what the cost.I would never tell anyone who's block to use.It's up to each person to decide,I only provided a opinion of a criteria to use to make a qualified decision on which to choose a block.If I were building engines over 2000 HP then I would rely on the experts opinion whom I have respect for to steer me in the right direction.As said many times here at BGR we build reliable bracket engines not exotic ticking time bombs.I'am not here to debate who's block one should choose.
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Re: AL wedge Indy Maxx or Keith Black
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10/25/10 03:02 PM
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Highland beach Fl
poisondart2
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We suggest that you chose what block works for your intended build.Consider the power level,combo parts,time constraints,availability as well as a realistic budget.Research reliable sources of experiences and results from respected builder and ask questions as to why the preferr a specific block and the advantages as well as the disavantages.If your building under a 1200 HP engine most after market blocks would work fine,If your got for higher HP,goe for the best block your budget can afford.
Would not the BEST block be the one that doesnt break or if it did can be fixed? I thought i saw the KB block advertised for $5,100.00 which aluminum block is cheaper? My
Tell me which one won't break and it's worth it no matter what the cost.I would never tell anyone who's block to use.It's up to each person to decide,I only provided a opinion of a criteria to use to make a qualified decision on which to choose a block.If I were building engines over 2000 HP then I would rely on the experts opinion whom I have respect for to steer me in the right direction.As said many times here at BGR we build reliable bracket engines not exotic ticking time bombs.I'am not here to debate who's block one should choose.
I didnt mean to offend just saying that for the money what block is better or equal to the KB ? The fact that one is not making 2000HP but making 700 Why wouldnt you want the best block you can find with-in the same cost factor? I would guess that in reading these threads for years that KB blocks are the best Aluminum blocks as I have never read anything bad about them.I would want to know if (I) asked what was the best block for the money from a expert with hundreds of builds.I would also think that most people on here use the info here to make decisions as what to buy and who to use for services.I do and this is why i posted this.Sorry
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Re: AL wedge Indy Maxx or Keith Black
[Re: poisondart2]
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10/25/10 05:24 PM
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tntmachine
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We suggest that you chose what block works for your intended build.Consider the power level,combo parts,time constraints,availability as well as a realistic budget.Research reliable sources of experiences and results from respected builder and ask questions as to why the preferr a specific block and the advantages as well as the disavantages.If your building under a 1200 HP engine most after market blocks would work fine,If your got for higher HP,goe for the best block your budget can afford.
Would not the BEST block be the one that doesnt break or if it did can be fixed? I thought i saw the KB block advertised for $5,100.00 which aluminum block is cheaper? My
Tell me which one won't break and it's worth it no matter what the cost.I would never tell anyone who's block to use.It's up to each person to decide,I only provided a opinion of a criteria to use to make a qualified decision on which to choose a block.If I were building engines over 2000 HP then I would rely on the experts opinion whom I have respect for to steer me in the right direction.As said many times here at BGR we build reliable bracket engines not exotic ticking time bombs.I'am not here to debate who's block one should choose.
I didnt mean to offend just saying that for the money what block is better or equal to the KB ? The fact that one is not making 2000HP but making 700 Why wouldnt you want the best block you can find with-in the same cost factor? I would guess that in reading these threads for years that KB blocks are the best Aluminum blocks as I have never read anything bad about them.I would want to know if (I) asked what was the best block for the money from a expert with hundreds of builds.I would also think that most people on here use the info here to make decisions as what to buy and who to use for services.I do and this is why i posted this.Sorry
No offence was taken. Just trying to collect as much info as I can before I decide.
I agree that the KB is the best bang for the buck, new. I've got an order form for one setting on my desk right now. If I don't find a used KB or Maxx by December I'll be sending in the order.
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