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Removing tie rod ends #823373
10/06/10 01:21 PM 10/06/10 01:21 PM
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I'm replacing the shot tie rod ends on my 70 D100 and I can't get them out of the tie rod. I removed the bolts, but my picle fork is too wide to break the seal, it just slides aroung the shaft, so I beat it with my 10lb sledge, but they're rusted in place. My torcches are empty, so I was just wondering if any of you have any other tricks to share.

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Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: Ledman_70] #823374
10/06/10 01:30 PM 10/06/10 01:30 PM
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put the nut on the end so that no threads show and use a "BFH"

Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: Ledman_70] #823375
10/06/10 01:31 PM 10/06/10 01:31 PM
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Try taping the side of the arm where the rod end attaches. The vibration usually loosens the rod end
Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: rustbuckett68] #823376
10/06/10 02:35 PM 10/06/10 02:35 PM
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Try taping the side of the arm where the rod end attaches. The vibration usually loosens the rod end

Hit it on the side solid with that big hammer it is a taper fit so you just need to break that taper loose.

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Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: Ledman_70] #823377
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I beat the crap outta of it all over... it is rusted tight! I think I need heat or maybe some kind of lubricant.

Jeff Adams 64 426 Polara
Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: Ledman_70] #823378
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Use the correct tool as shown in the FSM. It works great.
Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: AndyF] #823379
10/06/10 04:32 PM 10/06/10 04:32 PM
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40 years and replaced thousands at home and work.Never took more than a few whacks by the taper with my hammer.Thats in the rust belt.I even break most ball joints loose that way.Had one guy at work that could drop the whole steering with like 3 or 4 whacks with his hammer.Rocky

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Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: therocks] #823380
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Sorry, I don't have an FSM for this truck. I have broken some pretty stubborn joints apart, too, but I have whacked this thing as hard as I can with the sledge and it's not budging. The truck sat in the grass for a few years and everything under it is rusty. What tool does the FSM call for?

Jeff Adams 64 426 Polara
Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: Ledman_70] #823381
10/06/10 04:56 PM 10/06/10 04:56 PM
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but I have whacked this thing as hard as I can with the sledge and it's not budging.

It's not coming out (as is). I'd get a narrower pickle fork or the right puller. You will use em again and if you bend something from overuse of the BFH you will not be happy (I learned my lesson on that). Good luck w it.

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Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: Ledman_70] #823382
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Put a jack under the tie rod, just enough to give it some upward pressure. If there's room to swing, take 2 BF Hammers and wack opposite sides of the tie rod seat as hard as you can and it should pop right out.
Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: Ledman_70] #823383
10/06/10 05:04 PM 10/06/10 05:04 PM
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I have two sizes of forks, the smaller I use on tie rods, the larger on ball joints.
You must have the big one.
If you don't want to buy a smaller one, go to Autozone and get one from their tool loaner program.
Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: C-Tech] #823384
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Try taping the side of the arm where the rod end attaches. The vibration usually loosens the rod end

Hit it on the side solid with that big hammer it is a taper fit so you just need to break that taper loose.



At the risk of repeating what has been said multiple times, you pound on the part through which the tapered stud passes, not the TRE itself. In other words, apply the BFH to the "other" part - the steering knuckle part of the LBJ (in the case of the outer TRE), or the end of the center link (in the case of the inner TRE). This is what the vast majority of flat-rate front end mechanics do.

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Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: Ledman_70] #823385
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Forget the pickle fork. I hate those things. Spend $10 and get the tool for the job.



Tighten it up and the arm pops off. If it gets hard to turn and you think you're going to break it hold the tension and give it a mild smack on the arm (not tie rod) with the bfh will pop it out.

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Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: feets] #823386
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Forget the pickle fork. I hate those things. Spend $10 and get the tool for the job.



Tighten it up and the arm pops off. If it gets hard to turn and you think you're going to break it hold the tension and give it a mild smack on the arm (not tie rod) with the bfh will pop it out.



I've had one of those for years and I had no idea what it was even for.

Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: POS Dakota] #823387
10/06/10 09:56 PM 10/06/10 09:56 PM
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Actually, pix above is Pitman arm puller. This is TRE puller. Important to use it only to apply some tension, then whack the centerlink or drag link with BFH.

Rick

Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: Rick_Ehrenberg] #823388
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Actually, pix above is Pitman arm puller.

Rick



Rick they make those in 2 sizes , the smaller works on tie rods .
Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: RapidRobert] #823389
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but I have whacked this thing as hard as I can with the sledge and it's not budging.

It's not coming out (as is). I'd get a narrower pickle fork or the right puller. You will use em again and if you bend something from overuse of the BFH you will not be happy (I learned my lesson on that). Good luck w it.

Sears sells a pickle fork set ( I believe 3 different size forks ) that are relatively cheap and will do the job. Fastest way is a , but you do stand the chance of wacking the tapper out of round and a puller set is about twice the price of a pickle fork set.

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Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: Crizila] #823390
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Put a pry bar on it,could even be a 2x4 then apply tension and whack the side with the taper fit joint with a sharp blow from a hammer.Might take two people to do it but has never failed me yet
Re: Removing tie rod ends [Re: 440newport] #823391
10/07/10 03:13 PM 10/07/10 03:13 PM
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Put a jack under the tie rod, just enough to give it some upward pressure. If there's room to swing, take 2 BF Hammers and wack opposite sides of the tie rod seat as hard as you can and it should pop right out.


As he said.

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