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solid to hydraulic cam? #803129 09/16/10 03:53 PM 09/16/10 03:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,496 OK 7 70SWGR OP master
70SWGR OP master 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,496 OK	When changing from a solid lifter cam to a hydraulic would you change the springs?Will the push rod length stay the same? My son bought a '77 warlock 4x4 and we're planning on swapping out the 360 in the '70 dart to the truck. The 360 has kb 107's,j-heads 202/160 with the factory adjustable rockers,LD 340 and the hughes solid cam. I can't find the cam card but I think it was HE3844 and the duration was 238/244 @ .050 which I assume would be too wild for a truck.The springs also came from hughes and were matched to this cam. Anybody know of a good cam with good power and torque for a 4x4 truck?

Re: solid to hydraulic cam? [Re: 70SWGR] #803130 09/16/10 04:26 PM 09/16/10 04:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Personally I would put it in and try it. The springs IMO will work for you. The push rods for a hydraulic cam are way shorter due to the lifter cup location. Are keeping the adjustable rockers???

Re: solid to hydraulic cam? [Re: MoparforLife] #803131 09/16/10 07:39 PM 09/16/10 07:39 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,465 Carson City, NV B babarracuda pro stock
babarracuda pro stock B Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,465 Carson City, NV	Did you think about talking to Hughes?

Re: solid to hydraulic cam? [Re: babarracuda] #803132 09/16/10 10:55 PM 09/16/10 10:55 PM
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jr70swgr member J Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 22 Colorado	Im his son... If we try that cam will it cause any problems with the power brakes due to the vacum????

Re: solid to hydraulic cam? [Re: jr70swgr] #803133 09/16/10 11:23 PM 09/16/10 11:23 PM
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ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	Power brakes seem to do OK around 12" Hg vacuum and are really happy at 18+. From a previous post I remember idle vacuum was around 10-11" with the big cam. If that's right vacuum is the low side of marginal for PB... may work OK may not. One step smaller on the cam could make a difference on the PB I also remember compression was reported at around 10.5. With a smaller cam, detonation may be a problem with a much smaller cam and pump gas. I'd suggest trying the big cam engine as is or rebuilding the old one to truck specs... less compression and cam.

Re: solid to hydraulic cam? [Re: babarracuda] #803134 09/17/10 01:39 AM 09/17/10 01:39 AM
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70SWGR OP master 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,496 OK	Quote: Did you think about talking to Hughes? Already done that just wanted to hear opinions from members here.

Re: solid to hydraulic cam? [Re: ahy] #803135 09/17/10 11:50 AM 09/17/10 11:50 AM
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64Post master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,716 Baltimore/Denver	Quote: Power brakes seem to do OK around 12" Hg vacuum and are really happy at 18+. From a previous post I remember idle vacuum was around 10-11" with the big cam. If that's right vacuum is the low side of marginal for PB... may work OK may not. One step smaller on the cam could make a difference on the PB I also remember compression was reported at around 10.5. With a smaller cam, detonation may be a problem with a much smaller cam and pump gas. I'd suggest trying the big cam engine as is or rebuilding the old one to truck specs... less compression and cam. I'd tend to lean this way as well. OP, what is your altitude? 10.5 compression at sea level isn't a problem at altitude, but your vacuum also suffers. You might want to do a cranking comp. test to see what you have. Is the truck staying at altitude? I need more info... Brian, I got your PM. There is a Mopar shop in Denver, but I'm not comfy recommending them. Most of the guys that need work farmed out use a guy that works out of his house/shop. Last edited by 64Post; 09/17/10 11:55 AM.

Re: solid to hydraulic cam? [Re: 64Post] #803136 09/17/10 10:34 PM 09/17/10 10:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,496 OK 7 70SWGR OP master
70SWGR OP master 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,496 OK	My son lives east of Aurora but will be driving in the mountains plus use the truck for towing atv's,his friend has a cabin near grand lake. Could you give me the phone number of the guy working out of his home/shop? Do you know anything about the shop in Eaton,CO? Thanks, Brian

Re: solid to hydraulic cam? [Re: 70SWGR] #803137 09/18/10 12:22 AM 09/18/10 12:22 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,716 Baltimore/Denver 64Post master
64Post master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,716 Baltimore/Denver	Quote: My son lives east of Aurora but will be driving in the mountains plus use the truck for towing atv's,his friend has a cabin near grand lake. Could you give me the phone number of the guy working out of his home/shop? Do you know anything about the shop in Eaton,CO? Thanks, Brian Let me make a call or two. Louie can be tough to schedule at times. He's in Ken Caryl near Bandimere. I think the guy in Eaton is John Wolfe. Feedback is about 50/50 from what I hear.

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