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Engine Guru's- What does this spark plug tell you? #791200
09/02/10 10:02 PM
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I have noticed that I still have a bit of a problem w/ #8 cylinder firing. It misses when cold and seams to run fine when the engine is warmed up. I did have a problem w/ that cylender firing in the past but it improved when I put in an older autolite spark plug to replace a new Bosh platinum plug that did not seem to fire on that cylender. I have run it (only in the garage as car not on the road) for about 6 months of weekly starts and 1/2 hour time at idle w/ some revs. Here is a pic of that plug.

For any history on the problem in that cylender I refer you to this post
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...&PHPSESSID=


BTW, You can't tell from the pic but the plug is wet and smells like gas even though last I had it running was about 1-2 days ago.

Last edited by reno340; 09/02/10 10:09 PM.

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Re: Engine Guru's- What does this spark plug tell you? [Re: reno340] #791201
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2nd pic just in case


"There are only three real sports, Mountain climbing, Bull Fighting and Auto Racing. The rest are just games"
- Earnest Hemmingway


If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xQJtN1_6DU
Re: Engine Guru's- What does this spark plug tell you? [Re: reno340] #791202
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Thats oil


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Re: Engine Guru's- What does this spark plug tell you? [Re: reno340] #791203
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you need new ones


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Re: Engine Guru's- What does this spark plug tell you? [Re: joedust451] #791204
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Looks like oil, what kind valve seals are you running?

Re: Engine Guru's- What does this spark plug tell you? [Re: Cudajon] #791205
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I don't know about the valve seals. had the car since 1991 but never had it on the road.


"There are only three real sports, Mountain climbing, Bull Fighting and Auto Racing. The rest are just games"
- Earnest Hemmingway


If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xQJtN1_6DU
Re: Engine Guru's- What does this spark plug tell you? [Re: reno340] #791206
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Borrow a bore scope from someone and see if you can look at the backside of the intake valve. Usually can be done if you remove the carb and run down the intake. If its oily you have a bad valve seal and thats what youre looking at. The gas smell is from the plug not firing and is common. I think Id run a compression check first just to make sure this cyl compression is in line with the other cyl's to rule out a ring.

Re: Engine Guru's- What does this spark plug tell you? [Re: reno340] #791207
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have you pulled the valve cover to insure the valve train is ok? Could be a non opening intake valve.

Re: Engine Guru's- What does this spark plug tell you? [Re: ditchdrift] #791208
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Also make sure the PCV system is all good, a good test is while its idleing, pull the PCV valve out of the VC & put your finger over it, the RPMs should drop & you'll feel a strong suction, if you don't, you need to fix it if its blocked somewhere, if its not, a weak signal here indicates weak rings. It is also very possible its the seals are gone & the guides are badly worn.


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Re: Engine Guru's- What does this spark plug tell you? [Re: joedust451] #791209
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I didnt get back to that thread but if you swapped wires and plugs and it looks like that and still misses, you more than likely have a mechanical problem in that cylinder. Do a compression test on the engine and report the findings. If it was me at this point, I'd be pulling the head just to see what's going on.


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Re: Engine Guru's- What does this spark plug tell you? [Re: reno340] #791210
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Quote:


For any history on the problem in that cylinder I refer you to this post
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...&PHPSESSID=






Results of compression test were here


"There are only three real sports, Mountain climbing, Bull Fighting and Auto Racing. The rest are just games"
- Earnest Hemmingway


If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xQJtN1_6DU






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