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Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: mopowers] #788825 09/04/10 04:49 PM 09/04/10 04:49 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,572 wisconSIN B Blown61 OP pro stock
Blown61 OP pro stock B Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,572 wisconSIN	What is drilled and tapped for the bolt and cover?

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: Blown61] #788826 09/04/10 04:53 PM 09/04/10 04:53 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,011 Sac, CA M mopowers master
mopowers master M Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,011 Sac, CA	The pivot pin.

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: mopowers] #788827 09/06/10 12:12 PM 09/06/10 12:12 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,572 wisconSIN B Blown61 OP pro stock
Blown61 OP pro stock B Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,572 wisconSIN	Quote: The pivot pin. So that is nothing more then a cover and the pivot pin does all the support work?

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: Blown61] #788828 09/06/10 12:16 PM 09/06/10 12:16 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	Quote: Quote: The pivot pin. So that is nothing more then a cover and the pivot pin does all the support work? it holds in my bushing also home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: HEMIFRED] #788829 09/07/10 12:53 AM 09/07/10 12:53 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,572 wisconSIN B Blown61 OP pro stock
Blown61 OP pro stock B Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,572 wisconSIN	Quote: Quote: Quote: The pivot pin. So that is nothing more then a cover and the pivot pin does all the support work? it holds in my bushing also Doesn't the pin go thru a bushing?

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: Blown61] #788830 09/07/10 01:31 AM 09/07/10 01:31 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: The pivot pin. So that is nothing more then a cover and the pivot pin does all the support work? it holds in my bushing also Doesn't the pin go thru a bushing? if I remember correctly the bushing slides over the pin and the bolt screws into the pin.I am not 100% sure but I sem to remember it that way. looking at it you can see that it appears that way home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: Magnum] #788831 01/12/11 05:16 AM 01/12/11 05:16 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,404 Chesterfield Twp. Mi. J John Burdine pro stock
John Burdine pro stock J Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,404 Chesterfield Twp. Mi.	Quote: I see a bolt back there. Maybe it's fastened to the lower control arm shaft to keep the arm from pushing towards the rear of the car. There is no way the arm will fall off. The front strut will not allow that but it may pull back a bit without the tension of the torsion bar on the hex. How do you tighten this bolt and still allow the lca to pivot freely?

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: John Burdine] #788832 01/12/11 05:27 AM 01/12/11 05:27 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,260 Netherlands 72Challenger pro stock
72Challenger pro stock Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,260 Netherlands	On a side note... Fred, you think with the way you have your arms setup etc. a rack / pinion steering would fit using a stock k-member too? '

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: 72Challenger] #788833 01/12/11 10:22 AM 01/12/11 10:22 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,146 Melbourne , Australia LA360 master
LA360 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,146 Melbourne , Australia	Can a bearing be used in place of a bushing? I imagine the washer buts up to the shaft, allowing some clearance between the washer and the control arm? Thanks in advance Alan Jones

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: LA360] #788834 01/12/11 04:55 PM 01/12/11 04:55 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia Keith Black® pro stock
Keith Black® pro stock Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia	by removing the torsion bar, and using a coil over you are putting the load through the shock tower where the car was designed to support the springs through the trans crossmember. the shock tower's aren't up to it. I've heard it bends the car i.e. people have problems closing doors ..panel alignment etc.over time. good to hear member's experiences with c/o replacements.. -------------------------------- Darren Beale Keith Black Racing Engines®

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: Keith Black®] #788835 01/12/11 05:26 PM 01/12/11 05:26 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,260 Netherlands 72Challenger pro stock
72Challenger pro stock Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,260 Netherlands	Yeah, if you do change over to coil overs in my eyes it's a must to add some kind op bracing / support for cause as you said the stock shock towers aren't designed to carry the load. Assume if using stock upper arms you have to change the upper shock / coil over mounts anyway for clearancing. '

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: 72Challenger] #788836 01/12/11 05:30 PM 01/12/11 05:30 PM
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earthmover top fuel E Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,449 nc	gregsdart could you post a pic front and back of your lca where you did away with the t-bars?? thanks mike

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a ar [Re: HEMIFRED] #788837 01/12/11 07:49 PM 01/12/11 07:49 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi rowin4 master
rowin4 master Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi	Quote: Quote: What holds the back of the lower? where the torsion bar used to go into it? or does it matter? mine has this simple support. the pin on my K is still used one thing also done was a bushing was made for the inside lower arm with the bolt hole off center by rotating the bushing it moves the arm in and out . This helped make the camber setting stay constant thru any travel. Along with the mounting points on my upper arms having been relocated my front alignment is the same on the ground as it is in the air.It thinks it's a strut Fred, I noticed in the picture that there is no front strut. Was it removed in this picture for some reason or isn't one used? If not what keeps the wheel from folding under? it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: Blown61] #788838 01/12/11 09:25 PM 01/12/11 09:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,648 GA Boosted master
Boosted master Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,648 GA	I would love to know more about this for a street car... I am tired of working around the t bars with my headers... Anyone make a bolt in kit? 2011 RAM3500 1967 Fastback Barracuda with some go fast goodies.

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: Boosted] #788839 01/12/11 09:35 PM 01/12/11 09:35 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,449 nc E earthmover top fuel
earthmover top fuel E Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,449 nc	i would also like to know see more pic from diff. angles thinking of going this way with my big block duster project.. so anymore info you guys can give or show would help out thanks mike also what kinda rack is that fred??? did you have to do any bending of the lower ball joint mounts when went to the opp. side??? i think it was in another post before but not sure Last edited by earthmover; 01/12/11 09:37 PM.

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: Keith Black®] #788840 01/13/11 02:41 AM 01/13/11 02:41 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,890 North Alabama M Monte_Smith master
Monte_Smith master M Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,890 North Alabama	Quote: by removing the torsion bar, and using a coil over you are putting the load through the shock tower where the car was designed to support the springs through the trans crossmember. the shock tower's aren't up to it. I've heard it bends the car i.e. people have problems closing doors ..panel alignment etc.over time. good to hear member's experiences with c/o replacements.. Who says the shock towers are not up to it. My GTX, simply had a piece of 1" tubing welded across the shock tower, inside, on the wheel side. The tabs for the shocks were on this piece of tubing. No snout bars, no other supports or gussets, nothing. The front end alignment NEVER moved, this tells you the shock towers NEVER moved. Performed this conversion on more than one car and the shock tower carries the load just fine. Monte

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: Monte_Smith] #788841 01/13/11 02:59 AM 01/13/11 02:59 AM
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Jeepmon master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA	Here is another pic.. 6414634-coilover.jpg (338 downloads) 73 Duster 360 stroker http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2594657

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: Jeepmon] #788842 01/13/11 10:33 AM 01/13/11 10:33 AM
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Boosted master Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,648 GA	hey Monte.... Who sells this kit or is it one of those special things a person has to put together? Anyone use this on a street car? 2011 RAM3500 1967 Fastback Barracuda with some go fast goodies.

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: earthmover] #788843 01/13/11 12:11 PM 01/13/11 12:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,011 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart I Live Here
gregsdart I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,011 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	Quote: gregsdart could you post a pic front and back of your lca where you did away with the t-bars?? thanks mike Check first page, second picture I posted. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: coil over front end with stock upper and lower a arms?? [Re: Boosted] #788844 01/13/11 12:16 PM 01/13/11 12:16 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,085 The Wet Coast, Canada megajoltman master
megajoltman master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,085 The Wet Coast, Canada	Here's the parts I will be using when I do mine: aftermarket upper control arms(seems to give you way more room for the coil-overs imo) coil over shocks and springs a spanner wrench to adjust the shocks a set of spring bearings to make the ride height adjustments easier My cage will be tied into the shock towers so they will be fine. 1969 Dart 383/727/D60 CTD Ram 4x4 Mega Cab Procharged 350Z

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