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stainless steel intake??? #783811
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does anybody know if there was ever an intake made of stainless steel? bb or sb?

Re: stainless steel intake??? [Re: moparmanof85] #783812
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never heard of such an animal. Why would one make one of SS???


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Re: stainless steel intake??? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #783813
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weight would be one factor...it would be pretty heavy!
and you cant cast SS

Re: stainless steel intake??? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #783814
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working on an alternate fuel source and stainless is inert, whereas cast iron and aluminum are not. i need, or i would like to keep the fuel elements pure for maximum output. i'm a mechanical engineer with a major in molecular chemistry and a fetish for monster motors

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it weighs no more thn cast iron. i have the pieces laid out ready to weld with extra. 17.774 lbs

Re: stainless steel intake??? [Re: moparmanof85] #783816
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Have at it then!

Re: stainless steel intake??? [Re: moparmanof85] #783817
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it weighs no more thn cast iron. i have the pieces laid out ready to weld with extra. 17.774 lbs




can you go w/ a thiner gauge? I'm sure it could be fabbed up just like a home made aluminum. it wouls just be heavy as mentioned. What fuel are you trying to use? Could you somehow coat a aluminum intake?

Re: stainless steel intake??? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #783818
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its hydrogen. cant coat an aluminum intake because it needs to be pure. if the 2 combine, it will break the alum apart over time. thought about casting one out of copper, which is inert to the hydrogen for the most part, but i also want this [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] to look good. so........ stainless. yay

Re: stainless steel intake??? [Re: moparmanof85] #783819
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heavy duty plastic?

Re: stainless steel intake??? [Re: moparmanof85] #783820
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working on an alternate fuel source and stainless is inert, whereas cast iron and aluminum are not. i need, or i would like to keep the fuel elements pure for maximum output. i'm a mechanical engineer with a major in molecular chemistry and a fetish for monster motors




Well engineer, I was always taught the simplest solution was likely the best, seems like the core issue/problem is keeping the fuel elements pure ( I'm suspicious how much of a problem that really is in the first place), and it seems to me there are many other solutions with fewer downsides and less cost/hassle, however if the "flash" factor of SS is your thing, have at it.


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Re: stainless steel intake??? [Re: moparmanof85] #783821
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So you plan stainless heads and block, pistons.................


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Re: stainless steel intake??? [Re: jcc] #783822
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working on an alternate fuel source and stainless is inert, whereas cast iron and aluminum are not. i need, or i would like to keep the fuel elements pure for maximum output. i'm a mechanical engineer with a major in molecular chemistry and a fetish for monster motors




Well engineer, I was always taught the simplest solution was likely the best, seems like the core issue/problem is keeping the fuel elements pure ( I'm suspicious how much of a problem that really is in the first place), and it seems to me there are many other solutions with fewer downsides and less cost/hassle, however if the "flash" factor of SS is your thing, have at.



I'm no. engineer or chemist or whatever by any means, lol, but if high school memory serves me correctly, I think the stainless is preferreable but like he said it is inert. If cast iron or aluminum is used with the alternative fuel, the molecules of the fuel and intake will bond, which makes the fuel...well, not fuel anymore, and erodes the metal of the intake.....I think....

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Stainless does not dissipate the heat as quickly and will run hotter. Not a good deal in this case. Take note of how hot stainless headers run and hold the heat.


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Re: stainless steel intake??? [Re: '84 D150 Shorty] #783824
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how would an aluminum piston live in this environment?

Re: stainless steel intake??? [Re: doctor_mopar] #783825
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its not that easy. its taken me 6 years to get this far. pistons are not the issue because they are only in contact with the fuel for a short time. the heads are the same. ive made a port inside a piece of titanium sleeving that the fuel can be injected through. this is attached to the spark plug port and i've made special extended, ported spark plugs. its a long story. cant give away all of the secrets, right?

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Have you taken into consideration the unburnt fuel which will sit in the combustion chamber/cylinder and on the piston when the engine is shut off?

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If the fuel is injected through the spark plug it will not contact the intake, will it?
If it is just air in intake the intake could be aluminum couldn't it?
I wish you luck on this, let us know how it works out.

Re: stainless steel intake??? [Re: moparmanof85] #783828
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its not that easy. its taken me 6 years to get this far. pistons are not the issue because they are only in contact with the fuel for a short time. the heads are the same. ive made a port inside a piece of titanium sleeving that the fuel can be injected through. this is attached to the spark plug port and i've made special extended, ported spark plugs. its a long story. cant give away all of the secrets, right?




Boy a lot of lose ends on this thread, SS is not inert. Depending on the fuel, it might reactive then CI or alum, but its not inert. So what is the fuel, I know its a secret, but how much real time is the fuel in contact with alum/CI anyway with say port injection, and why not a coating, like teflon, or a ceramic. Since you are keeping so much secret, its really hard to figure out what your target really is. I can't see how heat transfer is much of an issue, and that is solvable anyway. If you have a TI fuel port, why the concern with a SS intake manifold? This feels like brainstorming, with everyone speaking a different lanquage

Re: stainless steel intake??? [Re: jcc] #783829
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how about a standard cast iron/aluminum intake, and have it ceramic coated?


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