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A-Body F.A.S.T. Build Thread - Thoughts? Input? #781934 08/23/10 10:12 PM 08/23/10 10:12 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 128 Tampa, FL G Garranimal OP member
Garranimal OP member G Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 128 Tampa, FL	Hey All, I was recently at the Mopar Nats and every year I love to stop whatever i am doing to run over to the track and see the F.A.S.T. cars run. I think the performance of these cars is simply amazing. This year one of the cars that impressed me was a standard 383 superbee that was running well into the 12's. That being said, I am considering building an A-Body small black car to compete in the class. One of the things i noticed was that the two A-bodies that were competing at the Nats were both '70s. I would like to build either a duster, demon or dart sport....basically the fastback body style. It seems the best combo would be a '71 because of the better exhaust manifolds coupled with the thermoquad....which i believe is a better choice for carb as it has bigger flow numbers. Please give me your thoughts on what combo you think makes the most sense. One thought was that the '73-'74 Dart Sport came with the dual snorkle single scoop fresh air hood....but the exhaust manifolds were more restrictive....correct? I look forward to hearing from you all. Thanks.

Re: A-Body F.A.S.T. Build Thread - Thoughts? Input? [Re: Garranimal] #781935 08/23/10 10:45 PM 08/23/10 10:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,125 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,125 A Banana Republic near you.	There was a 72 Duster that competed with a 440ish cube smallblock , it only ran in that configuration for a race or 2 but it ran 11.50's out of the boxand had more in it. Can't remember his screen name, think it was cjk440 , Chris K. from Ct., he's not on much here lately. I would think a 71 would be better as you get the hi flow exh manifolds AND a thermoquad which is bigger than the AVS on the 70. the good part for you is the person with alot of input in the engine of that car is sort of local to you , Dan at Performance Only in West Palm.

Re: A-Body F.A.S.T. Build Thread - Thoughts? Input? [Re: Garranimal] #781936 08/23/10 11:10 PM 08/23/10 11:10 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,324 Prospect, PA BSB67 master
BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,324 Prospect, PA	You can probably contact scatpacktom. He's been mid 11.s with a T/A 4 speed

Re: A-Body F.A.S.T. Build Thread - Thoughts? Input? [Re: JohnRR] #781937 08/23/10 11:15 PM 08/23/10 11:15 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 128 Tampa, FL G Garranimal OP member
Garranimal OP member G Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 128 Tampa, FL	Hi John, Are you talking about at the nationals this year? I didn't see that car. -Garrett

Re: A-Body F.A.S.T. Build Thread - Thoughts? Input? [Re: Garranimal] #781938 08/23/10 11:24 PM 08/23/10 11:24 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora A ademon master
ademon master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	I would think the 71 also, this is what i'm going to do also with my 71 not sure if i will race in F.A.S.T. but doing the car close to it.

Re: A-Body F.A.S.T. Build Thread - Thoughts? Input? [Re: Garranimal] #781939 08/23/10 11:25 PM 08/23/10 11:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa S scatpacktom master
scatpacktom master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa	The 70 B7 340 Duster you saw at the Nats is my little pure stocker. The butterscotch 71 belongs to F1scamp here on the board. 71-2 A bodies are the hot set up as they are a little lighter than the 3s and 4s. Come on out and have some fun

383man [Re: scatpacktom] #781940 08/24/10 01:38 AM 08/24/10 01:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	I would go with the 71 Demon. Ron

Re: 383man [Re: 383man] #781941 08/24/10 01:42 AM 08/24/10 01:42 AM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,894 Mira Loma, CA 69B3GT top fuel
69B3GT top fuel Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,894 Mira Loma, CA	Just out of curiosity why not build a big block A body? I would think a 67-69 fastback barracuda would be a good choice

Re: 383man [Re: 383man] #781942 08/24/10 02:34 AM 08/24/10 02:34 AM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora A ademon master
ademon master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	Quote: I would go with the 71 Demon. Ron 6156019-securedownload(640x480).jpg (65 downloads)

Re: 383man [Re: 69B3GT] #781943 08/24/10 02:35 AM 08/24/10 02:35 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	Quote: Just out of curiosity why not build a big block A body? I would think a 67-69 fastback barracuda would be a good choice Or how about a 69 Dart GT with a 440...?

Re: 383man [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #781944 08/24/10 02:38 AM 08/24/10 02:38 AM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora A ademon master
ademon master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	Quote: Quote: Just out of curiosity why not build a big block A body? I would think a 67-69 fastback barracuda would be a good choice Or how about a 69 Dart GT with a 440...? i'm curious about that to.

Re: 383man [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #781945 08/24/10 03:42 AM 08/24/10 03:42 AM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,894 Mira Loma, CA 69B3GT top fuel
69B3GT top fuel Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,894 Mira Loma, CA	Quote: Quote: Just out of curiosity why not build a big block A body? I would think a 67-69 fastback barracuda would be a good choice Or how about a 69 Dart GT with a 440...? Seeing how he asked about a F.A.S.T. build and GT darts didnt come with 440s you take a guess.

Re: 383man [Re: 69B3GT] #781946 08/24/10 04:34 AM 08/24/10 04:34 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	Quote: Quote: Quote: Just out of curiosity why not build a big block A body? I would think a 67-69 fastback barracuda would be a good choice Or how about a 69 Dart GT with a 440...? Seeing how he asked about a F.A.S.T. build and GT darts didnt come with 440s you take a guess. Sorry meant Dart GTS. They did have a 440 available from the factory. Seems like that would be the ticket to the largest cubes in the smallest package.

Re: 383man [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #781947 08/24/10 05:07 AM 08/24/10 05:07 AM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,894 Mira Loma, CA 69B3GT top fuel
69B3GT top fuel Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,894 Mira Loma, CA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Just out of curiosity why not build a big block A body? I would think a 67-69 fastback barracuda would be a good choice Or how about a 69 Dart GT with a 440...? Seeing how he asked about a F.A.S.T. build and GT darts didnt come with 440s you take a guess. Sorry meant Dart GTS. They did have a 440 available from the factory. Seems like that would be the ticket to the largest cubes in the smallest package. That was my original thought, but i figured a fastback barracuda would have more wieght over the rear

Re: 383man [Re: 69B3GT] #781948 08/24/10 07:22 AM 08/24/10 07:22 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,324 Prospect, PA BSB67 master
BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,324 Prospect, PA	Quote: Just out of curiosity why not build a big block A body? I would think a 67-69 fastback barracuda would be a good choice The challange with the big block A body is the driver side exhaust manifold.

Re: A-Body F.A.S.T. Build Thread - Thoughts? Input? [Re: Garranimal] #781949 08/24/10 08:35 AM 08/24/10 08:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,125 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,125 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: Hi John, Are you talking about at the nationals this year? I didn't see that car. -Garrett No that was last year , Chris' car was a 72 , he sold it , it went to europe .

Re: 383man [Re: BSB67] #781950 08/24/10 08:35 AM 08/24/10 08:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa S scatpacktom master
scatpacktom master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa	Every car has it's downside. I think the problem with a big block A body is the above mentioned drivers manifold and the intake and carb suck. My opinion is that a small block would eat the big blocks lunch for way less money. Big block adds weight over the nose and stroke makes the manifolds worse. Hope that doesn't deter anyone from building one.

Re: 383man [Re: BSB67] #781951 08/24/10 08:39 AM 08/24/10 08:39 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,125 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,125 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: Quote: Just out of curiosity why not build a big block A body? I would think a 67-69 fastback barracuda would be a good choice The challange with the big block A body is the driver side exhaust manifold. I don't think the manifold is as bad as it seems , I'll find out how bad next year , at least on my pure stock 383 build , hopefully I get enough OT over the winter months to have the extra money to finish my low deck stroker , but it's basically a non competitive package , lousy intake and a small carb . Also it's not as light as some think , my 69 383 GTS weighed 3605 in pure stock trim with a 190 lb driver .

Re: 383man [Re: scatpacktom] #781952 08/24/10 08:48 AM 08/24/10 08:48 AM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,093 oberlin, Ohio Rapid340 top fuel
Rapid340 top fuel Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,093 oberlin, Ohio	I like the 71 cars but I am a little biased. Never done a low deck based FAST motor but I am not convinced the right package won't outperform a SB. I have accumulated extra parts to build either a pump gas or race gas FAST SB. At some point I will be putting it together and offering for sale here on moparts. 1971 Factory Appearing Duster 340 11.000 @ 122 mph

Re: 383man [Re: Rapid340] #781953 08/24/10 08:58 AM 08/24/10 08:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa S scatpacktom master
scatpacktom master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa	John, it's not a "non competitive package" it will be competitive with someone, just not the guy at the top.

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