Was there ever a floor shift conversion kit for the older push button 727's, and are they still available? Thanks!

Roger that ...YES there was .....Art Carr made one ... no longer available EXCEPT on eBay .....

Lots-O-dollars .. the last one I saw !

HERE is a pic ...

If you're looking for a lever type shifter you could go with one from a '64 or '65 Sport Fury or Coronet 500.

Yes, I was thinking more about a lever type, but I thought the push button setup stopped after '64. Those cars had the push button type 727 but used a lever shifter?

What year is your trans? Push buttons were still used in '64. Although not push button the '65 trans was still a cable shift. You may have to change valve bodies or "rooster tail" to get the '64 - '65 cable floor shifter to work. Maybe John Kunkel will reply and tell you what you need.

The 65's still used a push button shifter on the base models, although some models did use a floor shifter also. The transmission is still cable shifted with both style shifters.

The early transmissions used two cables from the shifter, one for the park mechanism and one for the gear selection. If you intend to keep your original transmission, you need a floor shifter from one of those models for everything to work correctly.

The 65 Coronet 500 I once had had the floor shifter with the console. The shifter was actually mounted to the console instead of the floor. The shifter had two cables, one went to the normal gear selector position on the tranny, the other cable went to the back of the case itself, not the tailhousing, to operate the park mechanism.

Hope this helps.

My 65 dart w a floor console shifter had the 2 cables. I was thinking there weren't any pushbuttons after 64??

Maybe I'm wrong about that. Fine, I will be the first to admit that I don't know everything. I just seem to remember that my first 65 Coronet 2 door post car had the push buttons in the dash, although it was replaced by the floor shifter that had been installed by the previous owner. Of course that was 20 yrs ago, and with no pictures of the interior, it's kind of hard to confirm.

However, in helping the OP, if he gets a shifter and console from one of these cars, he can have a floor shifter and still retain his stock two cable transmission.

No pushbuttons after '64.

In order to make the '64-'65 console shifter work with a PB transmission the valve body needs to be changed.

Thanks for the info guys. But wouldn't require modification to the case the get a later valve body to fit? A later valve body has the shift connection coming up through the case, instead of out through the front with cables....no?

NO ... the 64-5 VB will drop right in. NO mods needed 'cept the proper cables and the shifter.

WAIT ... what is your exact combo? .. I have a bud with a 65 Belvedere that wants to convert to a PB shifter. Maybe you-two can do a swap.

Okay, I think that maybe I'm misunderstanding. I thought the idea of going to a later valve body would be so that mechanical linkage could be used instead of cables, and I couldn't see how that would work.

What would be the advantage of going from a cable valve body to a later cable valve body? Or would it be better to just go to a later tranny? The car is a '64 Fury with a 318 poly (original to the car) and a 727 cable shift. OR...(I haven't really looked at it yet-just got the car) is it a 727, and not a 904?

FIRST ...why do you want to go to mech linkage ? ...

The '64 console/'65 VB casting is bored for and has an extra notch for Park. If you install a '64-'65 console shifter on a PB trans the manual valve will bottom out before reaching the Park position.

I'm sorry, but I'm still not following. The 65 tranny (and I'm only refering to the 65 here as that is the one I'm familiar with) still uses a separate cable to the back of the case for park. It's not like a 66-up tranny where gear selection and park are operated by the one lever at the vb.

I'm not trying to cause any frustrations or hi-jack the thread. I'm just trying to understand and also help the op as well.

I sold a Art Carr "nifty shifter" a few years back.

At that time he said he was thinking of making another small batch , But they haven't surfaced yet that I am aware of

He said he used the mechanism / buttons for these shifter's from either a 60's dodge truck (sweptline?) or A-100.

Just don't like shifting with my left hand-it's a presonal thing.

Okay, lets look at it this way; will a later (66 up) 727 bolt to the back of a '64 318 poly? I have heard that one of the bellhousing bolt holes may off, and that there may be a problem with the converter hub fiting in the back of the crank.