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Flexable braided brake lines on the street? #778222 08/19/10 03:39 PM 08/19/10 03:39 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 699 Cooperstown, NY jrlegacy23 OP mopar
jrlegacy23 OP mopar Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 699 Cooperstown, NY	What are your thoughts on flexable braided brake lines on the entire car for street applications? I am in the process of replacing the front brake hoses with these. I think it looks nicer and a more "perfprmance" look. So I am thinking of doing the entire front brake lines, then at a later point doing the whole car. Any thoughts? [color:"#00FF00"]68 Fastback Barracuda with some stuff[/color]

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: jrlegacy23] #778223 08/19/10 03:58 PM 08/19/10 03:58 PM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 12,339 somwhere S smokinwoody I Live Here
smokinwoody I Live Here S Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 12,339 somwhere	be expensive for one...need to clamp down the line in many intervals..it would probably work...I never tried it...I use hard lines then the braided flex to the calipers from the chassis...

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: jrlegacy23] #778224 08/19/10 04:02 PM 08/19/10 04:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,902 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,902 Rio Linda, CA	Lots of braided lines aren't DOT approved if that matters. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: John_Kunkel] #778225 08/19/10 04:14 PM 08/19/10 04:14 PM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,288 Oregon sg66mopar pro stock
sg66mopar pro stock Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,288 Oregon	Talk to Mark Williams. When I did the disc brakes on my Race car they told me to keep the flexible line to under 3 feet for the whole car.

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: jrlegacy23] #778226 08/19/10 04:39 PM 08/19/10 04:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,052 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,052 Oregon	Keep the flexible lines as short as possible. Plumbing the whole car with flex lines would give you an expensive, spongy brake system.

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: jrlegacy23] #778227 08/19/10 04:47 PM 08/19/10 04:47 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Running all braided line will give you a slight spongy pedal... its the expansion in the line itself

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #778228 08/19/10 08:46 PM 08/19/10 08:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,030 Tulsa OK Bad340fish master
Bad340fish master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,030 Tulsa OK	I run long braided lines to the calipers and the rear axle on my jeep. 7 years now with no trouble. 68 Barracuda Formula S 340

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: Bad340fish] #778229 08/19/10 08:50 PM 08/19/10 08:50 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn. tubtar master
tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	Quote: I run long braided lines to the calipers and the rear axle on my jeep. 7 years now with no trouble. This is the best approach......replace all flexible line with braided and leave the hard lines as is. They make some pretty stiff braided brake line , but nothing like solid tubing.

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: tubtar] #778230 08/19/10 09:13 PM 08/19/10 09:13 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,293 Northeast, Alpine, NY 9 9 Sec Phill On a road near you
9 Sec Phill On a road near you 9 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,293 Northeast, Alpine, NY	I thought the braided stuff helped you stop better as the hose wouldnt expand like the factory rubber hose and you would stop in a shorter distance. ..Phill

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: 9 Sec Phill] #778231 08/19/10 09:38 PM 08/19/10 09:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,030 Tulsa OK Bad340fish master
Bad340fish master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,030 Tulsa OK	Quote: I thought the braided stuff helped you stop better as the hose wouldnt expand like the factory rubber hose and you would stop in a shorter distance. ..Phill There is no doubt its better than rubber but it will still expand more than hard line. The ideal situation is hardline with as little flexable line as you can get away with. The lines on my jeep are pretty long to deal with all the suspension travel. I imagine if the flex lines were rubber it would affect petal feel for sure, about 40-48" of line between the three. 68 Barracuda Formula S 340

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: Bad340fish] #778232 08/19/10 09:41 PM 08/19/10 09:41 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,404 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,404 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Wouldn't know....But I drive it almost every day. Lots of myths, but I have two street cars, both with braided lines. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: Dragula] #778233 08/19/10 09:51 PM 08/19/10 09:51 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	My whole brake system is braided line... works fine but it has a bit of a spongy pedal but not enough for me to run steel line.... yet

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #778234 08/19/10 10:09 PM 08/19/10 10:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,191 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,191 PA.	I purchased about 8 short pieces of Earl's #3 braided line from Summite ( 4,6,8,18, inch ) to use for the oiling system on the engine I am building. Every piece of line has a sticker " not for highway use " but yet they offered braided line brake kits for about every car known to man. If you ask me they are just covering their butt. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: pittsburghracer] #778235 08/19/10 10:20 PM 08/19/10 10:20 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 8,165 Left Coast B BobR master
BobR master B Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 8,165 Left Coast	Quote: I purchased about 8 short pieces of Earl's #3 braided line from Summite ( 4,6,8,18, inch ) to use for the oiling system on the engine I am building. Every piece of line has a sticker " not for highway use " but yet they offered braided line brake kits for about every car known to man. If you ask me they are just covering their butt. Some are DOT approved but the OP wants to replace all of his hardline with braided. I did this once like Mike has his but eventually changed it and got a much firmer peddle.

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: pittsburghracer] #778236 08/19/10 10:24 PM 08/19/10 10:24 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,845 Tampa D DusterDave top fuel
DusterDave top fuel D Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,845 Tampa	Personally, I would never plumb the entire braking system with braided hose, especially on a street car. Hold a plumbed braided brake line in your hand while someone else depresses the brake pedal. You can feel and see it expand. Imagine that amount of expansion over many feet of hose. Don't compromise your braking system. Forget the cool factor, hard line it, except for where there is suspension movement. Gone to the dark side with an LS3 powered '57 Chevy 210

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: jrlegacy23] #778237 08/19/10 10:29 PM 08/19/10 10:29 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 top fuel
bobs66440 top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	Here are some DOT approved ones http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Russ...nes-p-1298.html What the difference is, I don't know.

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: DusterDave] #778238 08/19/10 10:47 PM 08/19/10 10:47 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 top fuel
bobs66440 top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	Quote: Personally, I would never plumb the entire braking system with braided hose, especially on a street car. Hold a plumbed braided brake line in your hand while someone else depresses the brake pedal. You can feel and see it expand. Imagine that amount of expansion over many feet of hose. Don't compromise your braking system. Forget the cool factor, hard line it, except for where there is suspension movement.

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: bobs66440] #778239 08/19/10 10:53 PM 08/19/10 10:53 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: Personally, I would never plumb the entire braking system with braided hose, especially on a street car. Hold a plumbed braided brake line in your hand while someone else depresses the brake pedal. You can feel and see it expand. Imagine that amount of expansion over many feet of hose. Don't compromise your braking system. Forget the cool factor, hard line it, except for where there is suspension movement. I wouldnt do it again... but at the time it was easy (not cheap but was easy)

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: bobs66440] #778240 08/20/10 03:49 AM 08/20/10 03:49 AM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 699 Cooperstown, NY jrlegacy23 OP mopar
jrlegacy23 OP mopar Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 699 Cooperstown, NY	I am replacing the rubbers now, with DOT approved braided line. I have good metal lines now. Just a thought of plumbing the whole car, guess it would not be a great idea. [color:"#00FF00"]68 Fastback Barracuda with some stuff[/color]

Re: Flexable braided brake lines on the street? [Re: jrlegacy23] #778241 08/21/10 02:06 AM 08/21/10 02:06 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia J jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds.. J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia	Quote: I am replacing the rubbers now, with DOT approved braided line. I have good metal lines now. Just a thought of plumbing the whole car, guess it would not be a great idea. I am not yet convinced that SS braided line expands less then factory OEM type rubber brake lines. I would concede that SS braided lines look nicer and likely tolerate rock, etc debris contact better. Would like to see some emperical data first before I jump on that band wagon. I also suspect DOT specs maybe costly and are mainly to cover ones butt as per lawyer advice, since not meeting DOT sopecs inidicates? off road use. I also thought I read somewhere they are never DOT approved, just meet DOt Specs AndyF, this is a mag article in the making Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.

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