Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
RED LIGHT....RED LIGHT...RED LIGHT #776441
08/18/10 09:55 AM
08/18/10 09:55 AM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 388
Michigan
S
SD800 Offline OP
enthusiast
SD800  Offline OP
enthusiast
S

Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 388
Michigan
Guys,
Need some help here,
My Challenger is set up so you can run a delay box,trans brake and foot brake, the problem we are having is when Mike, the guy that drives my car,stages the car he bumps into the staged light unitl it flickers and bumps in just enough to keep it lit, when he leaves like he normaly does just as the light comes on he is consistanly .04 red.the car has a 1.23ish 60' times,
My question is how much stagger will we need to put into the front tires to ad about .05 to the reaction time.

He does not like the air pressure out of the tires, we have let them down to 22 lb but at 123 mph in the 1/8 mile he said it feels unstable

Last edited by SD800; 08/18/10 09:56 AM.

You'll have plenty of time to sleep when your dead, let's go
Re: RED LIGHT....RED LIGHT...RED LIGHT [Re: SD800] #776442
08/18/10 09:59 AM
08/18/10 09:59 AM
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,953
Houston, Texas
TheOtherDodge Offline
master
TheOtherDodge  Offline
master

Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,953
Houston, Texas
Is this red from a trans brake or foot brake?

If trans brake, get a "slower" button.

Re: RED LIGHT....RED LIGHT...RED LIGHT [Re: TheOtherDodge] #776443
08/18/10 10:14 AM
08/18/10 10:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,314
The Swamp
MegaDart Offline
master
MegaDart  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,314
The Swamp
or take air out of the front tires. lower launch rpm

Re: RED LIGHT....RED LIGHT...RED LIGHT [Re: MegaDart] #776444
08/18/10 10:53 AM
08/18/10 10:53 AM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 388
Michigan
S
SD800 Offline OP
enthusiast
SD800  Offline OP
enthusiast
S

Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 388
Michigan
this is with the trans brake, the two step is at 3000, if we go lower it really shakes the front tires.

Our track does not allow adjustable buttons.

Last edited by SD800; 08/18/10 10:54 AM.

You'll have plenty of time to sleep when your dead, let's go
Re: RED LIGHT....RED LIGHT...RED LIGHT [Re: SD800] #776445
08/18/10 11:09 AM
08/18/10 11:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,376
Las Vegas
Al_Alguire Offline
I Live Here
Al_Alguire  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,376
Las Vegas
Put in the delay box If you are not willing to let out some air, or lower the launch RPM not many options left, maybe pull some timing out.


"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."

"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
Re: RED LIGHT....RED LIGHT...RED LIGHT [Re: Al_Alguire] #776446
08/18/10 11:19 AM
08/18/10 11:19 AM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,528
Mansfield, Tx
Jacob Pitt Offline
master
Jacob Pitt  Offline
master

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,528
Mansfield, Tx
Taller front tires might help. What tires are you running now?


2013 NHRA D4 Stock Champ
#4 in the World IHRA Stock
2x IHRA Div.4 Stock Champ
14x Track Champ
All using a Ultimate Converter Concepts converter. Call Lenny today 704-892-6837
Re: RED LIGHT....RED LIGHT...RED LIGHT [Re: Al_Alguire] #776447
08/18/10 11:19 AM
08/18/10 11:19 AM
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,502
SOUTH JERSEY
HEMIFRED Offline
master
HEMIFRED  Offline
master

Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,502
SOUTH JERSEY
My rear tires when run soft slow my 60's. that might work


home of the
Sox and Martin Hemi Duster


Re: RED LIGHT....RED LIGHT...RED LIGHT [Re: HEMIFRED] #776448
08/18/10 02:22 PM
08/18/10 02:22 PM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 388
Michigan
S
SD800 Offline OP
enthusiast
SD800  Offline OP
enthusiast
S

Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 388
Michigan
I guess I should have better explained myself, our local track is mostly foot brake racing,which you can run a trasbrake in but no delay box, there are like 5 cars that run Bracket 1(super pro)delay box, if you win the class you win like $125.00, the larger payout is in Bracket 2(Pro)
The tires are 27 inch diameter which does not matter, this is a tube chassis car and we can stagger the front tires for more roll out, I was looking for an approximate amout of stagger we would need to put in the front tires to change from a .040 red to a.010 green reaction, would we need to move one tire 1/4 inch forward and one a 1/4 inch back to add 1/2 of rollout to the car, would 1/2 inch give us an additional .050 on the reaction time..

Last edited by SD800; 08/18/10 02:23 PM.

You'll have plenty of time to sleep when your dead, let's go
Re: RED LIGHT....RED LIGHT...RED LIGHT [Re: SD800] #776449
08/18/10 06:04 PM
08/18/10 06:04 PM
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 685
SW Ohio
AAR-B4 Offline
mopar
AAR-B4  Offline
mopar

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 685
SW Ohio
Looks like an application for a Biondo button.
http://search.cartserver.com/search/sear...elay&go=GO!

Re: RED LIGHT....RED LIGHT...RED LIGHT [Re: SD800] #776450
08/18/10 07:29 PM
08/18/10 07:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,028
The Grand State of Confusion-O...
SKR8PN Offline
master
SKR8PN  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,028
The Grand State of Confusion-O...
Quote:

this is with the trans brake, the two step is at 3000, if we go lower it really shakes the front tires.

Our track does not allow adjustable buttons.






Don't ask - Don't Tell.


Karma has no menu. You get served what you deserve.
Re: RED LIGHT....RED LIGHT...RED LIGHT [Re: SKR8PN] #776451
08/19/10 01:10 AM
08/19/10 01:10 AM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 6,257
gulfport, ms, west mi
rowin4 Offline
master
rowin4  Offline
master

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 6,257
gulfport, ms, west mi
You just got to calm Mike down, Just tell him not to red light or else, he'll be pulling .600 lights before you know it.


it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
Re: RED LIGHT....RED LIGHT...RED LIGHT [Re: rowin4] #776452
08/19/10 01:35 AM
08/19/10 01:35 AM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,542
BROOK PARK, OH
WILD BILL Offline
Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL  Offline
Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,542
BROOK PARK, OH
A 1/2" of stagger might just do the trick. Plus not a big deal as you can change it back if it doesn't help.

As said above, a larger diameter tire would do it too.


Re: RED LIGHT....RED LIGHT...RED LIGHT [Re: WILD BILL] #776453
08/19/10 01:47 AM
08/19/10 01:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,376
Las Vegas
Al_Alguire Offline
I Live Here
Al_Alguire  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,376
Las Vegas
Well adding stagger woudl be the same as going to a taller front tire. So if it is doable try adding a 1/4" to each side and see what that gets you. If it is a move in the right direction then fine tune it to get what you need.


"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."

"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
Re: RED LIGHT....RED LIGHT...RED LIGHT [Re: Al_Alguire] #776454
08/19/10 02:03 AM
08/19/10 02:03 AM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,319
Puyallup, WA
S
StealthWedge67 Offline
master
StealthWedge67  Offline
master
S

Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,319
Puyallup, WA
For gods sake, does it have to be an electrical gizmo answer to everything that ailes the drag racer??? How about the guy learns to drive the thing, or you take him out & put someone else in?? (sorry 'bout that)


LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1