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'68 and '70 B Body K Frame, LCA help needed #776115
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Can anyone tell what the difference is in a '68 K and a '70 K and the LCA's ( Both with sway bar tabs).
I am doing a drum to disc swap and was suggested to switch to a '70 k and LCA set-up for ease of parts finding and not fooling with brake hose issues.
Here is a link to my thread I started Drun to Disc Thread
I have everything now to put my suspension together and brakes except the hoses. If I decided to go the '70 route can I use all my suspension parts??
I would appreciate if anyone can help me on this!!
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Re: '68 and '70 B Body K Frame, LCA help needed [Re: moparrulzzz] #776116
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late 1966-1969 have sway bar tab on shock bolt mount for front mount sway bar,1970 has middle mount tab for sway bar goes inside k-frame. hope this helps


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Re: '68 and '70 B Body K Frame, LCA help needed [Re: hemigod426] #776117
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late 1966-1969 have sway bar tab on shock bolt mount for front mount sway bar,1970 has middle mount tab for sway bar goes inside k-frame. hope this helps



So I would need to use the 70 LCA's on '70 K frame correct? I couldn't get away with using the 70 LCA's on my '68 K?
I want to run a sway bar and not fool with the sway bar to caliper interference.

Re: '68 and '70 B Body K Frame, LCA help needed [Re: moparrulzzz] #776118
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I just realized I already have my TTI headers, will switching to a '70 K frame alter the fit of these??
This may be more trouble than its worth!!

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late 1966-1969 have sway bar tab on shock bolt mount for front mount sway bar,1970 has middle mount tab for sway bar goes inside k-frame. hope this helps



So I would need to use the 70 LCA's on '70 K frame correct? I couldn't get away with using the 70 LCA's on my '68 K?
I want to run a sway bar and not fool with the sway bar to caliper interference.


the 66-69 lcas will bolt right on with 70 k frame but you will have drill the 4 holes in it for front mount sway bar, headers will fit both the same. if i were you id use 68-69 kframe same as 318 car, and get 66-69 lcas with tabs to look correct for your car, or are you working on a 1970 car?


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Re: '68 and '70 B Body K Frame, LCA help needed [Re: hemigod426] #776120
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Did this brake swap on my 69 bee. Used the 70K frame and LCA's and a firm feel front bar. I'm happy.

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I have a '68 Coronet w LCA that have tabs for sway bar. I am swapping the drums for disc's and will have a caliper to sway bar contact issue. Mounting the calipers to the rear is a option but then I have the brake hose issues and getting some made.
Was told it would be easier and easier to get replacement parts if I went to a '70 K and LCA's
due to the way they mount.(No more interference) If I could get away with just the '70 LCA's that would be great as my '68 K is powder coated.
I don't care about correctness (nothing on car correct)
I guess my question boils down to do I need the 70 LCA and K or can I use the '70 LCA's on my'68 K.
And if I need to switch to '70 K/LCA's, will all my suspension parts I have been buying thru this rest-mod be usable.
I really want to run sway bars or I wouldn't worry about it.!!
Thnx

Re: '68 and '70 B Body K Frame, LCA help needed [Re: myrddin] #776122
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Did this brake swap on my 69 bee. Used the 70K frame and LCA's and a firm feel front bar. I'm happy.




Is the 70 K different from your '69, I guess you couldn't use the '70 LCA's on the '69 K

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I have a '68 Coronet w LCA that have tabs for sway bar. I am swapping the drums for disc's and will have a caliper to sway bar contact issue. Mounting the calipers to the rear is a option but then I have the brake hose issues and getting some made.
Was told it would be easier and easier to get replacement parts if I went to a '70 K and LCA's
due to the way they mount.(No more interference) If I could get away with just the '70 LCA's that would be great as my '68 K is powder coated.
I don't care about correctness (nothing on car correct)
I guess my question boils down to do I need the 70 LCA and K or can I use the '70 LCA's on my'68 K.
And if I need to switch to '70 K/LCA's, will all my suspension parts I have been buying thru this rest-mod be usable.
I really want to run sway bars or I wouldn't worry about it.!!
Thnx


dude real easy keep your 68 done k frame in car, swap spindles left to right and it rear mounts calipers then get 1973 charger front brake hoses done deal been doing it for years, depending on calipers if even done it with rear mount pin type calipers which everyone has problems with those worked mint with 1970 cuda/super bee hoses from napa. and keep front 68 bar and lcas


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The sway bar actually goes through the middle of the 70k frame. I did it for the same reason. To avoid the caliper to sway bar interference on my drum to disc swap. The sway bar tabs on the 70 lca are also in a different location than the 69 arms, avoiding any contact the bar might have with the calipers.

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Your headers will fit, it's worth doing...

70 K complete...

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Your headers will fit, it's worth doing...

70 K complete...


not if your car is a factory sway bay 68-69 performance car, not a a/c sway bar car. it would be mutt job, what would you be gaining??

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Your headers will fit, it's worth doing...

70 K complete...


not if your car is a factory sway bay performance car, not a a/c sway bar car. it would be mutt job, what would you be gaining??




The late style disc brakes fit properly without rear mounting them... If you front mount the late calipers they hit the early type sway bar.. Many simply rear mount the calipers but when you rear mount the calipers the brake hoses no longer cross the centerline of the steering axis... Crossing the axis minimizes the likelyhood of excessive strain on the brake hose from steering motion... Lots of guys do it, but look at any factory engineered car & the hose will cross the axis.... You think thats just a fluke?

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If I find a set of '70 LCA's and a '70 sway bar can I use it on my '68 K Frame? (I don't care if I need to drill holes in K frame)
I don't dought anyones advice here and I appreciate all thats been posted, its been helpful.
I will reread these posts when I am not crosseyed tired, in case the answer to my question has already been answered!!
Just for the record I am partial to mounting the calipers forward, nothing on the front is assembled as of yet

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If your using a 68 K the 70 swaybar won't work...

This picture may help.. Actually a 69 M code K..

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Thnx for the clarification Randy. All my bushings, torsion bar, strut rods etc.. will work as well wont they?
Like I said I have EVERYTHING except the brake hoses. (except If I switch to '70)to put the front end together. I would hate to have to buy all this crap over....
Chuck

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Thnx for the help Hemigod!! I appreciate your input!!

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Your headers will fit, it's worth doing...

70 K complete...


not if your car is a factory sway bay performance car, not a a/c sway bar car. it would be mutt job, what would you be gaining??




The late style disc brakes fit properly without rear mounting them... If you front mount the late calipers they hit the early type sway bar.. Many simply rear mount the calipers but when you rear mount the calipers the brake hoses no longer cross the centerline of the steering axis... Crossing the axis minimizes the likelyhood of excessive strain on the brake hose from steering motion... Lots of guys do it, but look at any factory engineered car & the hose will cross the axis.... You think thats just a fluke? [/quote mostly right, most have failed rear mount by dart calipers hiting shock bolt,hoses too short,hoses rubes on lcas,hose pinching on turns, if you have an a-12 car or 66-69 hemi cars you want to retain the correct stock k-frames,and sway bars, not barning 1970 k-frames into every thing. ive made my brake kits work mint with all mopar parts and the better i think pin type calipers from 1973-78 mopars much stronger mounting.and also with the large pin type caliper adaptors can go up to police 11.75 from 10.75 discs, also have my kits on my race cars stops mint @ 100mph plus in 1/8 drags with no shut down at my track and right angle turn and the end many car go in the woods every year that run slower. if you cant figure out how to right with factory parts, theres many kits out there that go right on your drum spindle done deal no quess work


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At this point the easiest thing for you to do is to just finish it up with rear hung calipers. Don't you already have the correct Volare calipers? All you need is a set of the correct hoses made for the car and you're done. Don't do a hack job with incorrect hoses, just get a set of custom ones made that fit properly. It only costs about $50 for a pair of hoses and then you're all finished.

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heres some pics of one race car fenders are off for repaint, can see better

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